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Originally Posted by ksconekiller
That's what I figured you meant. 
"Grounds not specified in the rulebook"? Not sure what you mean by that, but the only rule a person needs to know is that the replacement strut mounting points have to be the same dimensions as the factory unit. If an aftermarket unit is different, it is technically illegal. Just so you know, I have Koni full replacements on my car. Both bolt holes on each strut are round, and I got the same camber as with the OEM struts. Everything measured the same as the factory parts. What I said earlier was that apparently some people have been able to get more camber with the Konis than with stock struts; I am not one of them. My comments simply stated that if someone had struts that had slotted holes, they would not be able to use that to gain more camber than OEM struts.
I wouldn't want to see the Konis get banned any more than the next person, but if they were slotted, something would have to be done. Fair enough ? |
As Clay references below, you're shifting your goalposts now.
From 13.5.A:
"The make of shock absorbers, struts, and strut housings may be substituted
providing that the number, type (e.g., tube, lever, etc.), system
of attachment and attachment points are not altered, except as noted
below."
As long as the system of attachment, attachment points, overall extended length is within 1 inch +/- and the spring load bearing surface is in the right spot, you're ok.
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Originally Posted by solort
If the strut dimensions are identical to the original struts and you use the legal camber bolt, the resulting negative camber attained is legal unless the FSM limits the max camber (by stating it in the FSM) with an exact #. The older Dodge Neon ACR used to be limited to -2.4 as stated in their FSM. The SRT4 ACR has no such max camber limitation but limits what you can do to get negative camber. Read the Scion or Subaru FSM and follow it and you will be legal on your alignment.
And other people around pages 141-142 had similar feelings to what you stated. Camber envy.....
I hope when I get my car sorted out that mine will be towards the high side. But it may not, and I will also have camber envy...
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There is also no requirement to stay within the FSM specs for camber when using factory authorized camber bolts.
13.8.E:
E. If offered by the manufacturer for a particular model and year, the use of
shims, special bolts, removal of material to enlarge mounting holes, and
similar methods are allowed and
the resulting alignment settings are
permitted even if outside the normal specification or range of specifications
recommended by the manufacturer. If enlarging mounting holes
is specifically authorized but no material removal limits are specified,
material removal is restricted to the amount necessary to achieve the
maximum factory alignment specification.
We are fortunate enough to have a car that has factory authorized camber bolts. Between the lower pressure Konis, the TRD springs, and the camber bolts, and a smart alignment (two guys - one muscling the hub while the other torques the bolts), a range of camber exceeding the factory specification is both achievable and completely legal.
If you use legal parts, your alignment specs are not able to be protested. I'd hate to see a protest on an actual number rather than the hardware used anyways, as it's incredibly difficult to police. It'd be like the dyno testing fiasco from NASA last year.