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Originally Posted by Dimman

Ok, I know little about the tC.

Here is what I know about Scion in general and the tC specifically.

The epic performance car you call the tC is based on a chassis that Toyota makes for a European FWD family/economy car that fits between the Corolla and the Camry in terms of size. It is powered by a Camry/Corolla XRS/RAV4/Matrix four cylinder. It has MacStruts in the front and multilink rear suspension.

That's about it.

Not going to blow any minds into thinking, 'OMG this would be an awesome race car!'. Unless I could get one for free, and lots of Toyota factory support. (Think Titan is operating a 2JZGTE-powered funny car under the Scion brand because they WANT to? All they want is the money.)

You are completely under Toyota's marketing spell. I'm not going to look for the exact quote but you said something along the lines that because of these extremely heavily-modded, some not having a single 'Scion' component on them, you are proud to be a Scion owner. You are probably proud to watch the 'David' little man Scion team beat up on the established 'Goliath' performance cars. Yeah, go underdog!

Those cars and the money Toyota throws at them is actually marketing. Gasp!

But you're not realizing that it's actually the other way around. Toyota is a factory team dressed up as Scion competing against a bunch of privateers. In cars so far removed from what they sell it's amazing. Given the reality you should be embarrassed that they are not doing even better.

Get over your car. It's basically a Camry/Corolla coupe. You spent a lot of money to make it fast. Good for you.

As for your engine numbers, I'll admit I know next to nothing about the 2AZFE. But my experience in the Supra community means I have a good handle on the BS that comes with 'stock' claims. And by that I don't mean that I think the 2JZGTE can take 1000 hp on stock internals and that no other motor can come close to the mighty 2JZGTE. It means I know how much BS is in the 'stock' internal 2JZ claims. And this is a HEAVILY over-built motor. Iron, closed-deck block, everything forged but the pistons. So I don't see a lightweight, economy-minded motor making crazy claims having any more truth to them.

But I could be wrong.

True that. I happened to read on a review from clublexus.com, tC is base on Avensis family sedan which is sold in EU exclusively.