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Yes. No. And: No. But come on, if you still believe that the H4 that is in the STI on the dealership lot is the same as the one in a rally car, you are far more ignorant than even I give you credit for being. At least Scion has the balls to put a factory backed car into drifting.
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Look Oneday, you can enter a stock STI to a rally event and not get mocked at an epic level. Try that with your tC at a drift event... My issue is the race car's relevance to the brand.
As for balls? Being a factory team with a single-purpose engineered race car against a bunch of privateers with production-based cars takes balls?
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Again, I got your point and I am well aware of what transpired--I lived through it. I am all for Darwinian-esque elimination of idiots, but making a car safer for public streets was a smart move on Toyota's part. What I am saying, again, is that I don't see that same kind of issue with the FT-86 FMR layout--regardless of what badge it wears
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Um...
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The "Lawyers will make them water it down" argument is tired and ignorant.
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Er...?
BTW, Honda did the same thing with the S2000.
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That's kinda like the "It's a Jeep thing" thing...I only know what people call and ask for, I am not nearly as knowledgeable about Supras (any of them) as I am about the cars I regularly drive and work on.
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That was evident by you perpetuating the 800hp on stock internals 2JZ myth. They are out there, but they don't live long. 600hp is the more accepted 'safe' stock internal number.
OK, I will take the Mk3 bait after all.
As for the Mk3 community, maybe it's my local scene that's the exception.
There are function before form modified cars.
I'm used to being the shittiest-looking and on the slower side of the group. 1JZ twin turbo, aluminum driveshaft, powersteering delete, etc... (Middle black car in the pics) White car ran 9.90 @ 147 this summer, full interior, street driven, 7MGTE. Mk3's that are modded need a lot of function just to get a shred of respect. Built 7M's and a lot of 1JZ and 2JZ swaps.
The rest of the Mk3's are pretty much as you described except bone-stock. Head-gasket time bombs, covered in rust.