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Old 08-20-2014, 10:00 PM   #7277
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I kinda wonder about the same thing. The hp output with this set-up will be very impressive on a dyno, the torque numbers maybe still pretty impressive! How much would the "Scotty (Star Treck), engineers at Toyota/Scion/Subaro", over design this system? My old boosted Mazda 626, delt with a jump from 9.2psi to 12psi but barely, and that was within the stock tolerances of the wastgate controller. As soon as I "chipped" the ECU, to allow over 12psi, the stock clutch was useless. This was an engine rated at 190ft/lbs of torque (under-rated), that made 280ft/lbs at the wheels with 12psi. Mazda at the time, stuck an adapted RX-7-turbo, 5spd transmission in the car, and it broke constantly, for me and many others.
The clutch lasted only about 30k Km, before it would start to slip at the old 12psi number!

To a point, this stuff is fun and can still be reliable DD. It may even boost the car a whole class in straight line performance, but if you push too hard, there will be a price to pay for the fun.

Maybe its different now, but I'll just bet that Fentons current set-up is the outer reaches of what you can do and not break it regularly. I even think that if Fenton was not a relatively careful/skilled, sporty driver, it might already be breaking.

Thats my 2cts worth of 30 years of messing around with cars.

Feel free to abuse me now!
I love your closing statement. Brave. Well said!

The cost of the 300, once we know, will also be a factor to consider. If the price increases to the point in which it compares to other FI products consumers may lose interest. If the added stress from increased boost are also part of the equation why not traditional SC?

The ESC 250 is attractive to me because I believe their are few necessary supporting modes. Fewer parts equal less money and less maintenance. Overall easier to manage. Easy to install and uninstall. Powerful

If supporting mods I.e. ( oil cooler, catch can, clutch, tires etc) become a necessity . I would go traditional in a heart beat.
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