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Originally Posted by totopo
So this seems to be the prevailing opinion I am trying to convince people is not quite correct. Weight isn't the only factor, even in handling. Or else everyone should just get miatas and tune them and they should dominate NASA tt e-ttu. That is obviously not the case. With equal tires, the stock z and the Frs probably have similar cornering speeds. If anything the z might beat it.
The Frs is more in the miata class rather than the s2k class. Just hp doesn't show the full performance of an engine. 220ft.lbs torque for the s2k compared to 150 for the brz is quite a significant difference .
When you start talking about tuning, why cant you tube the z as well? It's silly to compare tuned cars to stock cars. With all the money and warantee issues, what if you sank that same money into a z?
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That's kinda the point I was making though. The Z doesn't have as high potential. It will always be compromised. If you took care of the oil starvation and braking problems, it may be reliable on track, but it would still never be as nimble or light. Power can always be added. The S2000 especially does well with forced induction, more so than the other 2.
My opinion will always be biased towards the types of cars that do well in time attack though. I like Silvias, RX7s, S2000s, the GT86, etc.... and RWD, obviously, as Evos seem to dominate everything entirely most of the time. haha. What can I say? I like the underdogs.... but these underdogs are the ones out there setting records, and yeah, they are heavily modified, but they were chosen as base platforms for good reason. Weight and cornering ability.
There are a lot of NSXs out there killing it too... but that's neither here nor there, considering the cost and the inherent advantages of a mid-engine car.