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Tbomb 25 · 04-01-2012, 08:42 AM

It does seem like people on here get really angry when other posters say it needs more power,and thats rediculous.....because if this car came with the WRX motor all you that claim this current power level is fine and so perfect for a 2800+ pound car,would be much happier even if all you "so called" NA purists wouldnt admit it. The truth is this car does need more power but in particular the "torque" department i see all these S2000 and Rx8 comparrisons...and that is way off atleast in the motor department. those engines are 8500+ rpm rev monsters!

This engine is not a high reving terror...its rather mudane in that aspect.I just dont see the logic,if Toyota wanted a NA Boxter motor Subaru should not have been their choice its easy it should have been Porsche.Toyota basically tied Subarus righthand behind their back on this project,by not letting them do what they do best...which is turbochaged boxer engines.Its a shame people are not really looking at how disapointing this engine really is,without DI this motor would have only made about 150 to the crank and thats being really genorous and it even needed 12.5.1 compression only to run on premium gas at the height of our worst gas crisis in the history of this planet for god sakes Toyota gee thanks, this will not be a tuner friendly motor this car as a whole may be tuners delight but the motor deffinetly isnt. Honda didnt need DI to get 210 at the crank out of the K20,even Toyota themsleves didnt need DI to get 180 to the crank out of Celica GTS motor and they even done it with 1.8 litres.I love this car on so many levels more than 99% of the new cars out there at any pricepoint,but the price for what you get just isnt there on more than a few levels,the mpg,the initial availabilty and crazy mark ups,lack of engine tunability is a major question mark...and all this at the expense of no torque and not being able to REALLY rev....Wow is all i can say...im gonna leave it at that...Im sorry guys not trying to be a hater,im just stating facts....i know you guys rip peoples head off for saying something negative about this so called ungodly car but oh well...this has been on my mind since the engine specs came out...again sorry for this...

04-01-2012, 08:42 AM	#381
Tbomb 25 Balance over power... Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: 13 Hot Lava Frs, 88 Supra Turbo Location: San Pedro,California Posts: 238 Thanks: 6 Thanked 38 Times in 33 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It does seem like people on here get really angry when other posters say it needs more power,and thats rediculous.....because if this car came with the WRX motor all you that claim this current power level is fine and so perfect for a 2800+ pound car,would be much happier even if all you "so called" NA purists wouldnt admit it. The truth is this car does need more power but in particular the "torque" department i see all these S2000 and Rx8 comparrisons...and that is way off atleast in the motor department. those engines are 8500+ rpm rev monsters! This engine is not a high reving terror...its rather mudane in that aspect.I just dont see the logic,if Toyota wanted a NA Boxter motor Subaru should not have been their choice its easy it should have been Porsche.Toyota basically tied Subarus righthand behind their back on this project,by not letting them do what they do best...which is turbochaged boxer engines.Its a shame people are not really looking at how disapointing this engine really is,without DI this motor would have only made about 150 to the crank and thats being really genorous and it even needed 12.5.1 compression only to run on premium gas at the height of our worst gas crisis in the history of this planet for god sakes Toyota gee thanks, this will not be a tuner friendly motor this car as a whole may be tuners delight but the motor deffinetly isnt. Honda didnt need DI to get 210 at the crank out of the K20,even Toyota themsleves didnt need DI to get 180 to the crank out of Celica GTS motor and they even done it with 1.8 litres.I love this car on so many levels more than 99% of the new cars out there at any pricepoint,but the price for what you get just isnt there on more than a few levels,the mpg,the initial availabilty and crazy mark ups,lack of engine tunability is a major question mark...and all this at the expense of no torque and not being able to REALLY rev....Wow is all i can say...im gonna leave it at that...Im sorry guys not trying to be a hater,im just stating facts....i know you guys rip peoples head off for saying something negative about this so called ungodly car but oh well...this has been on my mind since the engine specs came out...again sorry for this... Last edited by Tbomb 25; 04-01-2012 at 09:01 AM.