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Old 03-30-2014, 06:12 AM   #25
nelsmar
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Originally Posted by Luis_GT View Post
Awesome job @nelsmar

Theres a small typo though

Thick Solid: Tuned with BPB
Thin Solid: Tuned with BPB
Small Dashed: Tuned w/o BPB
Large Dashes: Untuned w/o BPB

Thin line should say Untuned
Thanks for the heads up! That could have been confusing. Lol

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Originally Posted by captain_jack View Post
So why not use them on a fi car?

sent from your mom
FI air flow is different as you have a positive pressure differential vs the engine pulling. It'd also just a lot of work to get solid data when you have sketching such as a turbo that has so many variables. If I was supercharged still I would give it a whirl to see what it was like.

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Originally Posted by Captain Insano View Post
Thanks for testing. Which headers for that next round of testing?
The car I was testing on us picking up a JDL UEL this week.

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Originally Posted by StormTrooper View Post
@nelsmar I'd quote the issues I'm having reading your post but I'm on my phone and don't want to quote all of it or mess around.

Where is the 116 and 119whp coming from if stock is 130whp?

Some of your numbers don't make sense.
Someone else answered you but just to clarify 130 was the "peak hp" of the baseline. I was showing examples of gains at a specific rpm as the peak number shows little. Especially when you consider both the tuned with and without the spacers made nearly the same peak whp but the dyno with the Crawford spacers has more torque and more usable power.

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Originally Posted by trevorovert View Post
this may be incredibly off topic, by why do some dynos such as this one read so low (130whp) while others read real high (180whp)? Nelsmar is right in saying we should be looking at percentages, but what is right here? does the car have 140whp or 180whp? Why would we believe one or the other? why isn't this a standard calculation?

anyways.. looks great. thanks neslmar. where is jamesm when you need him for supportive context
I have a link I will try to post in the morning explaining dynos. This is why baselines and average baseline numbers are very important. This is why there has been friction with me and many vendors in the past when asking for detailed dyno info because peak numbers without an appropriate baseline is hard to gather solid info from. A fee vendors have made as much effort as me to show baselines and it is quite appreciated by those of us that are comfortable with them.

But as for which is right... The maha is extremely accurate and does a wind down to get a crank power reading but regardless that is still only so accurate. Simple answer is none are right. Look at the gains not the actual number tins worthless.
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