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Originally Posted by Marchy
(and even then with the number of crashes the FRS/BRZ its probably going to go up).
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Originally Posted by Model Citizen
The number of I slid and crashed my car lol stock tires threads here and posts on Facebook groups are evidence of this.
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Originally Posted by Snowblind
Driver error/safety features turned off is more at fault than the tires on the car with all of these wrecked car threads.
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Does anybody have any actual, verified statistics that indicate that this car is experiencing an unusual number of crashes? Until I see them, I'm not going to assume that the number of FR-S or BRZ crashes is any higher than with any other car.
Does anybody remember the Summer of the Shark? In 2001 the national cable news channels had nothing better to cover than shark attacks. They got on a rip and covered every damned shark attack through that entire summer. It seemed like the sharks were rising up against us, and the news channels played on that and speculated endlessly on what was causing the "rise" in sharks eating people.
The problem was that there was no rise in shark attacks. It was the same as every other summer. The only thing that was different was that people were hearing about it because the news channels decided to cover it. It was word of the shark attacks that had increased, not actual shark attacks. Yet the national media continued that crap right up until the September 11 attacks drew their attention away from it.
I strongly suspect a similar phenomenon is happening here. If you crash your Chrysler 200, you're not going to get on a family car enthusiast board and post about it, because nobody will care. Pieces of Chrysler 200s could be littered all over the nation's highways, and we wouldn't know it because nobody would care enough to discuss it.
But the people who crash their FR-Ss and BRZs tend to come right here and tell everyone, because they know other people who love this car will be interested and will commiserate on their loss. Seeing "all of these wrecked car threads" is only evidence that people actually give a crap about this car beyond just having a ride to work. It tells you nothing at all about how this car stacks up against other cars in the accident statistics.
The good thing for us is that insurance companies use actual statistics rather than word of mouth on internet message boards when calculating the risk premium to add to the cost of your insurance. So until one of the insurance groups that track this kind of thing comes out and says that we have a crash-prone car, let us please not get worked up over whether our insurance rates are going to increase.