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Originally Posted by SVTSHC
Also Zdan I never said you DIDN'T have a point, I just said you're overly critical when it comes to weight. It's to the point where you seem to make a HUGE deal out of anything that weighs in excess of 3000lbs, without considering the practicality that comes with a larger vehicle. Like comfortable seating for 4-5 people.
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Like all the other BMW-apologist arguments, this one makes 3200, 3600, 4000+ lb vehicles from an "enthusiast" manufacturer seem not only inevitable but *laudable*.
A minivan is a much more practical 4-5 passenger vehicle than anything BMW makes. Not a great argument for BMW to abandon the 1- and 3-series to make minivans, IMO...
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In addition to this if you've got a dedicated track vehicle then chances are you'll lighten it substantially ANYWAY; so that vehicle that started at lets say 3300lbs might end up being under 3k once you get rid of the glass, non-aluminum panels, spare (if you have one), grab lighter rims, passenger and rear seats and every other component that exists solely for creature comfort.
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This argument is LUDICROUS. As if once you start lightening a platform its original weight was irrelevant? If you want a lightweight track car, starting with an overweight pig is idiotic.
Utter B.S. Same effort in lightweighting to get an E46 below 3000 lb would have an E30 below 2400 lb.