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Originally Posted by Dezoris
Well lets face it too, most engine builders dont really share out or volunteer information. Its bad enough trying to get vendors to say anything anymore about testing. But one thing is for damn sure those claiming 400ish HP on here you wont see any logs or much proof of any sustained abuse like track time.
I mean you can throw boost and crazy timing at any motor for short periods but sooner or later something is going to give. I dont take any of these shops claiming high HP seriously. Namely if its just dyno speak. Nelsmar keep doing research and post back.
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Will do. I may just "gamble" on a set of bearings and just tune the car my self at this point so I can actually say what I did or did not do and show my actual tune in public unlike what other vendors would do. I am not the best at tuning in the world but then at least there would be "open" information. I am just trying to decide if I really want to jump in and throw money into a burning barrel at this point. So far I'm leaning towards yes... I'm having lunch with a friend who builds motors for a living to ask his opinion on the build and see if he wants to toss me a hand with my teardown. I plan on spending a lot of time on the dyno and actually checking my tune against MBT as I don't think my last tune was actually tested for MBT... (but that is a whole different discussion).
Hell if anyone wants to contribute to me doing a mid-build with OEM bearings I would gladly do lengthy tests on the dyno and post results of where i find MBT and report back testing. I put 25k miles on my car in 6-7 months. If anyone is going to find out how long term OEM bearings will last under conditions it would likely be me, especially considering my climate in my region. I'll obviously be trying to do this anyway but parts are pricey since the car is so new. So it will take me a while to piece everything together.
At this point I am looking towards buying an OEM long block. I am half tempted to test an OEM long block on the dyno for a bit and then tear it down and swap the internals. I wish more shops would post information on this. But then again this is how they make money, by having their reputable builds that they can sell by doing their own testing.
I also fully agree about this not being anything new. I am not new to the car scene. I remember when a number of motors were being seen as "weak" and little to no hope. Hell I remember the K series... that one was great. Everyone was complaining that they didn't accept any after market parts and were just horrible. And now look where the "threshold" is. I have a friend with a K20 that is practically stock that was putting close to the power of my first vortech setup.