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Originally Posted by ZDan
Audi and others have done this as well. It's a way to reduce scrub radius with strut suspensions.
Details like this aren't anything like as important as the *execution*. Geometry, damping rates, bushing stiffnesses, on and on.
Back or front, more joints and more complicated mechanisms do not necessarily equate to "better". Best for performance is still simple upper and lower control arms with toe links (steering tie rods up front). But again, execution and details are hugely important (double-wishbones all around not fully sorted/tuned isn't going to be superior to struts/multilink).
All that said, I'm sure that Hyundai is further up the curve now, and that Toyota/Subaru will also have a well-developed setup.
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Which is why I used words like 'debatable' 'may' 'effective application' and 'could'.
From what I've heard (but no personal experience), the GenCoupe has a ways to go with the execution. Thing I remember off the top of my head is something about inadequate travel before smacking bump stops during any kind of 'sporty' driving.
I have still some mixed feelings about Hyundai, left over bias from their Pony days measured against their current improvement.
But stuff like the GenCoupe's suspension confuses me, and makes me still view them negatively from a performance point of view.
The fact is they did put a more complicated (and probably more expensive than necessary) suspension into the car. This could be seen as good. But the fact that I have read nothing about exemplary handling with regards to the car says, to me at least, that they ultimately failed, or have an incomplete understanding of what they are doing. They had a clean sheet during the design process and came up with a 'meh' car that cosmetically and on-paper was more geared to mimicking a G37, than being an actual driving car.
So Hyundai over-complicated and under-delivered. At least from the sports side of things.
In the FR-S/BRZ's case, the suspension and braking components are basically from the Legacy/Impreza parts bin trans/diff from existing TMC products, yet the application has made everyone who tested it in a sporting setting get all silly in love with it.
TMC/FHI simplified and over-delivered.
That to me is why the FT86 > the GenCoupe.