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Old 07-13-2013, 09:37 AM   #92
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Originally Posted by WolfsFang View Post
Why must it cost $800+ for JUST a tune that adds ~20hp? What happens if a better tuning software came out? Well now im $800+ down the drain. This is the one reason why I have yet to purchase ECUtek. If ECUtek offered gains like the diablo stage 0.5 tune for the genesis (70+hp) then yea it would be worth the $800+ for digital mod.
First to market. When you absorb the time and expense required to R&D and bring something to market FIRST, the benefit is you get to charge for the service. Welcome to commerce? Our money is being used to further the community. The VAST number of people who bought into EcuTEK are ecstatic with the results.

You want to see 70+ horsepower gains on a REFLASH for a stock N/A 2.0L? Yeah, damn them for not giving us a magical reflash that gains 50% of our wheel horsepower from some reprogramming. Compare percentage gains, and like applications. It's not a large-displacement twin turbo car, but tuning it still requires the same research and time, which they put in.

Money talks. It's called the "Market." Toma is speaking with his money by not supporting EcuTEK---and others of us did. He's brought up the "This is America" thing a few times... that means the rest of us are free to speak with OUR money too, whether you agree with it or not. If BRZEdit is the superior option you say it is, then EcuTEK will wither and die and it will emerge victorious. We ALL want to see a cheap easy tuning solution hit the market, and I'm sure one will appear after the car's been around for a few years----this is how it ALWAYS works in the automotive world. Let it drop.

Bashing EcuTEK in every thread even quasi-related to tuning isn't going to change EcuTEK's business model, it just makes our forums look like most other automotive forums, which I find embarrassing. If you want to promote your product, keep it civilized and intellectual: state the pros and cons and respect the rest of the community to make an informed, intelligent decision that suits THEIR needs not yours. If you make a strong enough case, you win. 'Merika.

I hope no one takes offense to any of this, but I'm not seeing any betterment for the community from these threads. They turn into purely opinionated arguments. Go out, hug your 86, and smile that you HAVE options to debate over after only one year of production..
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