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l0aded 12-04-2015 02:41 PM

Genuine OEM Oil Filter?
 
So I have been buying Black Genuine Subaru Oil Filters 15208AA130 ([ame="http://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Subaru-15208AA130-Oil-Filter/dp/B00ESTFGMQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1449254271&sr=8-1&keywords=BRZ+oil+filter"]Amazon.com: Genuine Subaru 15208AA130 Oil Filter: Automotive[/ame])

But I noticed on Amazon Toyota has an oil filter as well by Denso 90915-YZZS1. ([ame="http://www.amazon.com/2013-2015-GENUINE-FILTER-SCION-FR-S/dp/B00KQRAYIU/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1449254271&sr=8-4&keywords=BRZ+oil+filter"]Amazon.com: 2013-2015 GENUINE OIL FILTER SCION FR-S: Automotive[/ame])

ONTOP of this, there seems to be a blue Genuine Subaru oil filter as well 15208AA15A (http://www.rallysportdirect.com/shop...rz-limited-2-0)

Are these ALL technically OEM oil filters? Are there any noticable performance differences?

mav1178 12-04-2015 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by l0aded (Post 2470137)
Are these ALL technically OEM oil filters? Are there any noticable performance differences?

Yes. But to be technical, you should only use the Toyota one or aftermarket replacement. Using the Subaru one is just asking for needless arguments with the dealer if there is an issue.

The internet says there is a difference. I have yet to see factual evidence (other than pictures of filter medium construction) that says there is a difference.

-alex

l0aded 12-04-2015 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2470139)
Yes. But to be technical, you should only use the Toyota one or aftermarket replacement. Using the Subaru one is just asking for needless arguments with the dealer if there is an issue.

The internet says there is a difference. I have yet to see factual evidence (other than pictures of filter medium construction) that says there is a difference.

-alex

Which one does the internet recommend? Prices are in the same ballpark so might as well go with the mass preference.

Clipdat 12-04-2015 03:04 PM

Care to explain your reasoning behind this?

15208AA130 for life!

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2470139)
Using the Subaru one is just asking for needless arguments with the dealer if there is an issue.


mav1178 12-04-2015 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Clipdat (Post 2470171)
Care to explain your reasoning behind this?

15208AA130 for life!

You go to a random dealer.
They insist you must use genuine Toyota parts for warranty to be honored.
etc.

It's details but if you asked Toyota if their filter can be used on a Subaru, the official (and legal) response would be that it is not designed for Subaru BRZs.

In reality we all know what works and what doesn't. But for the average person who relies on a dealer for service, it's best that they stick with a part that won't give the dealer grounds (reasonable or otherwise) to deny legit service work.

-alex

l0aded 12-04-2015 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clipdat (Post 2470171)
Care to explain your reasoning behind this?

15208AA130 for life!

Sold me. Ordering 3 pack :lol:

roddy 12-04-2015 08:20 PM

You would likely be ok with any of the above options. My FR-S came from the factory with a 15208AA130 on it, and that's what I will use as long as I can get them...

mhughett 12-04-2015 10:36 PM

The blue Subaru 15a filter is taller but smaller in diameter and doesn't look like it belongs in the oil filter housing. Besides, I have heard these are very cheaply made filters made by FRAM. I would get either the Toyota filter or the Subaru 130 filter.

Mr.ac 12-04-2015 11:36 PM

Woh, $11 for the Subaru and $9 for a Toyota one?
Dam. Local dealer is $6 for a Subaru and $7 for a Toyota.

But like others said, go with a Subaru for a BRZ and Toyota for the FRS, if your worries about dealership warranty.

Apoc 12-05-2015 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2470187)
You go to a random dealer.
They insist you must use genuine Toyota parts for warranty to be honored.
etc.

It's details but if you asked Toyota if their filter can be used on a Subaru, the official (and legal) response would be that it is not designed for Subaru BRZs.

In reality we all know what works and what doesn't. But for the average person who relies on a dealer for service, it's best that they stick with a part that won't give the dealer grounds (reasonable or otherwise) to deny legit service work.

-alex

This would be fun if they open the hood and see all the Subaru parts. This reasoning is flawed when you have a car that is made up of 90% Subaru parts.

N1rve 12-05-2015 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Apoc (Post 2470671)
This would be fun if they open the hood and see all the Subaru parts. This reasoning is flawed when you have a car that is made up of 90% Subaru parts.

To a normal person, the reasoning is flawed. From a legal perspective -- no it's not. Legally the car is sold as a Subaru BRZ and legally the other car is sold as a Scion FRS.

If you look up the same part, in the Scion Database and the Subaru Database, they should come up as different part numbers. Because legally Toyota and Subaru are two different entities with two "different" cars, with their parts respectively.

But I'm pretty sure this car is made up of 100% Subaru parts..I mean it did come out of the Subaru Factory.

KR-S 12-05-2015 02:26 AM

Oh, this is funny.

I have an OEM Subaru oil filter in my FR-S, and it's been there when I bought the car. I'd love to see a dealer raise hell over my unapproved oil filter which came stock from the factory.

As to the manufacturer of the oil filter, at least for mine, it's Tokyo Roki.

Apoc 12-05-2015 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by N1rve (Post 2470692)
To a normal person, the reasoning is flawed. From a legal perspective -- no it's not. Legally the car is sold as a Subaru BRZ and legally the other car is sold as a Scion FRS.

If you look up the same part, in the Scion Database and the Subaru Database, they should come up as different part numbers. Because legally Toyota and Subaru are two different entities with two "different" cars, with their parts respectively.

But I'm pretty sure this car is made up of 100% Subaru parts..I mean it did come out of the Subaru Factory.

The part numbers are only different on the outside packaging. They still have Subaru branding and part numbers on them. I have purchased parts several times from my Scion dealership and they are Subaru parts. It wouldn't make much sense to have the manufacturer create 2 exact same parts for Toyota and Subaru. The Toyota Genuine Parts labeling is happening after. Once the part is on your car they can't tell the difference and couldn't say shit.

roddy 12-05-2015 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Apoc (Post 2470833)
The part numbers are only different on the outside packaging. They still have Subaru branding and part numbers on them. I have purchased parts several times from my Scion dealership and they are Subaru parts. It wouldn't make much sense to have the manufacturer create 2 exact same parts for Toyota and Subaru. The Toyota Genuine Parts labeling is happening after. Once the part is on your car they can't tell the difference and couldn't say shit.


In most cases, yes. This used to be true for the oil filters as well, but isn't any more. If you can still find the SUU# filter, it will be a Subaru 15208AA130 filter in the box. The new Toyota part number filters are their own.


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