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JD001 09-17-2015 01:55 PM

is there an obvious alternative?
 
Just got the October edition of Car magazine today it has a review of the Cosworth GT86 and a group test between a GT86 Aero vs MX5 vs Audi TT Roadster... are they really the alternatives?

I can't think of a true alternative and I didn't consider anything else when I got my BRZ.

JS + BRZ 09-17-2015 02:14 PM

Meh, nothing much in the segment.

MisterSheep 09-17-2015 02:16 PM

uhmm.. I considered multiple different cars before getting my frs...

Like the Genesis Coupe. much bigger and heavier than frs... Basically Korean mustang.

Nissan 370z. Out of the price point and heavier.

2016 camaro ss (this was a very very short consideration :lol: )

Evo, Sti both wayy too expensive.


Now that I think of it there really isn't much people can compare these cars too.. Price point and performance wise.

Fastbrew 09-17-2015 02:21 PM

^^ 370z

Also - depending on if this is a second car or your situation - used Elise/Porsche.

JD001 09-17-2015 02:24 PM

Yep, I am struggling to find a true alternative, size, weight, price and handling. It has to be sought out whilst the other cars are really very accessible and obvious especially in the UK. I think only about 300 BRZs on the road in the UK since its launch.

jawn 09-17-2015 02:26 PM

The only other car I thought about getting was a used Cayman S or an MX-5, but the parcel shelf rear seat won me over.

JS + BRZ 09-17-2015 02:29 PM

Ohhh he meant which car we have considered when getting a BRZ?

It was a BRZ or used E92 M3 for me.

Good thing I've got a BRZ since I can't seem to control my 200hp beast at the track. LOL

MisterSheep 09-17-2015 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jawn (Post 2393218)
The only other car I thought about getting was a used Cayman S or an MX-5, but the parcel shelf rear seat won me over.

I agree. I was considering a 370z because I used to own a 300zx TT.. but just the fact that the frs HAS the back seats won me to get the frs. That and the frs looks more stunning than a 370z.

MisterSheep 09-17-2015 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JS + BRZ (Post 2393225)
Ohhh he meant which car we have considered when getting a BRZ?

It was a BRZ or used E92 M3 for me.

Good thing I've got a BRZ since I can't seem to control my 200hp beast at the track. LOL

e46 m3 and s2000 are another good choice.

Edibrac 09-17-2015 02:30 PM

There is one car you can compare the FRS/GT86 to, the BRZ.

Otherwise there are almost no cars that also have RWD, lightness, great handling, and under $30K

JS + BRZ 09-17-2015 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterSheep (Post 2393228)
e46 m3 and s2000 are another good choice.

Yep! The E46 M3 was way too old for me, the S2K was way too small for me.

JD001 09-17-2015 02:36 PM

The S2000 getting rather long in the tooth and the M3 a different thing don't you think? Front engined, RWD, a finely balanced chassis and lightweight.

DAEMANO 09-17-2015 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterSheep (Post 2393205)
uhmm.. I considered multiple different cars before getting my frs...

Like the Genesis Coupe. much bigger and heavier than frs... Basically Korean mustang.

Nissan 370z. Out of the price point and heavier.

2016 camaro ss (this was a very very short consideration :lol: )

Evo, Sti both wayy too expensive.


Now that I think of it there really isn't much people can compare these cars too.. Price point and performance wise.

You nailed it.

The 86 fills a hole in the segment no automaker was touching. It has no direct competitors. "Lightweight", 2+2 Sports cars built on dedicated Sports Car Chassis. The only ones I could think of are:

  • Toyota/Scion/Subaru 86
  • Lotus Evora

Did I miss any? With the 86, those looking for a DD the extra +2 and fold down back seat make the car liveable. Its' low weight make it fun, dynamic and economic. It's 2 door coupe configuration makes it sexy. A lot of cars people compare the 86 too really aren't in its' segment.

2 seaters - Not practical for a DD
Roadsters - Also not practical for a DD
2+2 muscle cars - Heavy, not chuckable
Sport Sedans - Heavy, not sexy enough
FWD Hot Hatches - Too practical, unsexy, torque steer, lack balance & feel

Any others?

JD001 09-17-2015 02:44 PM

There is one FWD that would be worth seeking out, Renault Clio 200 Cup.


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