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mokinbird87 09-05-2015 06:52 PM

Gruppe M / Revolution garage intake
 
I am speechless that this intake is in my hands :) only true ram air design for frs/brz platform. Crappy cellphone photos do not do justice for this piece.. Can't wait till I install it! I will be doing a before/after dyno. This intake is more about keeping the horsepower under high stress conditions (according to some Japanese reviews, every 1 degrees Celsius you lose 0.7hp), but just want to see if it actually makes any difference. stay tuned.

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OkieSnuffBox 09-05-2015 08:33 PM

So I guess you haven't seen the Greddy scoop?

http://counterspacegarage.com/greddy...-frs-gt86.html

zooki 09-06-2015 10:03 AM

Do you have any pictures of the inside of the air box? Does the area where the MAF mounts have a radiused outlet? Velocity stack? thanks.

Dr. BRZ 09-06-2015 03:25 PM

so much want! but i cant reason myself spending over $1000 for this piece! so.... i only spent $200 and got the greddy snorkel! and let me tell you, i can feel the difference! $200 well spent!

mokinbird87 09-06-2015 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zooki (Post 2381860)
Do you have any pictures of the inside of the air box? Does the area where the MAF mounts have a radiused outlet? Velocity stack? thanks.

here ya go.
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...1b&oe=566CBCCE
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...a6&oe=5677BD9B

asdf 09-06-2015 07:34 PM

Ballin!

In for installed photos!

jaorocks1 09-07-2015 12:12 AM

In for dynooo

sw20kosh 09-07-2015 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. BRZ (Post 2382067)
and let me tell you, i can feel the difference! $200 well spent!

:confused0068:

nelsmar 09-07-2015 01:19 PM

Are you doing tuned before and after or untuned on both? I've been wondering about this intake. It's about time someone got one! :)

I would love to see a log of the maf voltage before and after. I'm curious how much different it is as the oem is right after a bend.

Spartarus 09-07-2015 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox (Post 2381515)
So I guess you haven't seen the Greddy scoop?

http://counterspacegarage.com/greddy...-frs-gt86.html

No. That Greddy scoop retains the original airbox and thus the 90 degree bend downstream. Look carefully and observe the difference.

He said true ram style and he was correct. Straight shot from airbox to throttle body.

zooki 09-07-2015 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartarus (Post 2382623)
No. That Greddy scoop retains the original airbox and thus the 90 degree bend downstream. Look carefully and observe the difference.

He said true ram style and he was correct. Straight shot from airbox to throttle body.

They both(and even the stock snorkel) take air from the high pressure area directly in front of the radiator. If you were to take a pressure reading from directly in front of the MAF you probably wouldn't see any difference between the three.

Teseo 09-07-2015 04:34 PM

Pictures after installation

Spartarus 09-07-2015 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zooki (Post 2382738)
They both(and even the stock snorkel) take air from the high pressure area directly in front of the radiator. If you were to take a pressure reading from directly in front of the MAF you probably wouldn't see any difference between the three.

Yes. They do. I wasn't even addressing that. But the others have multiple 90 degree bends. The thing that distinguishes this intake is the geometry down stream of the filter, not the place where it picks up air. This one is a straight shot from filter to throttle body.

By the way you would absolutely see a pressure drop equal to at least the filter differential pressure in any intake. And then after that every bend in the pipe further reduces airflow.

Velocity matters as much as pressure when determining flow.

I'm not saying this means automatic power gains as there are more factors that go into it (resonance for instance) but this has the potential to be a better design for several reasons.

zooki 09-07-2015 09:39 PM

I was actually talking about the difference in pressure between the three measured at the same spot. I realize the air filter will cause a pressure drop. I seem to remember reading somewhere that Coswioth determined the stock intake tract would support 300 HP with a drop-in filter, but I can't find it now.
I also wonder about putting the air box behind the radiator where it would have warm air constantly blowing across it. I realize CF is a good insulator, but I wonder if it's enough to negate this? Oh well, time(and the dyno) will tell, I suppose.


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