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kingstonalex 09-03-2015 02:51 AM

Clutch wear on BRZ
 
Looking to purchase a 2014 Limited BRZ soon. Test drove one with 8k miles and going to look at one tomorrow with 24k.

24k miles car is through a private party. Assuming the clutch doesn't slip, how long should I expect the clutch to last & how much would it cost to replace it?

Both are 2014. Slightly concerned about 24k in only 14-15 months of ownership but could be good if they are freeway miles.

Dealership has the 8k miles it for 25k OTD.

Private party is 21,000 plus tax so 23k OTD.

Private could negotiate down.

Dealership has already took off 1k for me.

Mr.ac 09-03-2015 04:24 AM

Assuming both cars where not driven by kids learning stick, it should last to 80k even 100k depending on conditions. Price wise you may be under warranty from the dealer. Maybe even covered from the private party's original sale. Depending if he bought the extra warranty.
If your a DIY kind of guy you could do it yourself and just pay for parts. Depending you have the space/tools/times. Lots of YouTube vids out there.

To me mileage means jack, overall feel, looks and condition of the engine/body are more important for me. If your worried about miles, save up get it brand new. 24k is nothing to worry about. (Unless it's been abused by some kid).

Tcoat 09-03-2015 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.ac (Post 2378622)
Assuming both cars where not driven my kids learning stick, it should last to 80k even 100k depending on conditions. Price wise you may be under warranty from the dealer. Maybe even covered from the private party's original sale. Depending if he bought the extra warranty.
If your a DIY kind of guy you could do it yourself and just pay for parts. Depending you have the space/tools/times. Lots of YouTube vids out there.

To me mileage means jack, overall feel, looks and condition of the engine/body are more important for me. If your worried about miles, save up get it brand new. 24k is nothing to worry about. (Unless it's been abused my some kid).

More than just "kids" can do in a clutch I am afraid.
The clutch is very rarely covered by warranty as it is a wear item. Although there are certainly rare instances that they may cover it I wouldn't consider warranty as a factor when discussing wear items.

Agree 100% on not getting hooked on mileage. The number doesn't matter as much as how it was taken care of and driven.

Mr.ac 09-03-2015 11:19 AM

So true. I seen 30 year olds drive with their foot on the clutch pedal, and only shifting after their bouncing off the rev limiter, while getting groceries.

MisterSheep 09-03-2015 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.ac (Post 2378792)
So true. I seen 30 year olds drive with their foot on the clutch pedal, and only shifting after their bouncing off the rev limiter, while getting groceries.

:party0030:^^^ me if I were to get groceries. Or actually drive with my foot resting on the clutch pedal. Or shifting at the rev limiter.

In reality I don't BUT our cars would be badass if they could take that kind of daily abuse.

If you're worried so much about the clutch see the private party first and ask LOTS of questions. Who drove the car? where has it been driving? Was it a commuter car? Did you ever take it out of state? Is it your first manual car?
If you like it then go for it. But you can also pay 2k more for one that's a lot newer.

I would probably call up the private party asap so you can see it before you loose the deal on the newer one.

Scenic Driver 09-03-2015 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.ac (Post 2378622)
it should last to 80k even 100k depending on conditions

It should last longer than that it if wasn't abused. I''ll be at 80k in a few weeks, my clutch is still fine.

Tcoat 09-03-2015 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Scenic Driver (Post 2378974)
It should last longer than that it if wasn't abused. I''ll be at 80k in a few weeks, my clutch is still fine.

My last 4 cars all had over 200K on them when traded and I never put a clutch in any of them. Replaced the engine in one (slipped timing belt) and pretty much carried spare pads and rotors in the trunk but never a clutch.

MisterSheep 09-03-2015 01:38 PM

^ I can also vouch for not ever having to change the clutch in any of my cars.
94 300zx 189k miles- never replaced clutch, throwout bearing did seem like it wanted to go. Owner before me replaced clutch. Had master and slave cylinder replaced only for car.
03 Subaru WRX 116k miles - never replaced clutch. Blown head gasket came before bad clutch. :iono:

JS + BRZ 09-03-2015 01:59 PM

Lowball both dealer and private party. Always lowball, it doesn't hurt to ask. :D

kingstonalex 09-03-2015 02:05 PM

Dealership has been lowballed. Came from down 23,998 Sticker to 25k OTD.

Private party hasn't been offered a lowball yet. Have to see the car today to make the offer.

Is there any warranty issues that are common in the first 36k miles?

So I shouldn't be too worried about the clutch unless it is really slipping?

Tcoat 09-03-2015 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kingstonalex (Post 2379036)
Dealership has been lowballed. Came from down 23,998 Sticker to 25k OTD.

Private party hasn't been offered a lowball yet. Have to see the car today to make the offer.

Is there any warranty issues that are common in the first 36k miles?

So I shouldn't be too worried about the clutch unless it is really slipping?

The common issues on the earlier ones are here:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21868

There is also a small group of more serious issues (oil starved engines spinning bearings, bad axles, tranny issues, etc) but those are scarce in the big picture and are always a risk with any car.

I wouldn't worry too much about the clutch unless there is an obvious problem. The big thing with clutches is they don't always give warning before they go. They work fine one shift and not the next and you don't see it coming. Not horribly expensive to replace anyway and can be a great opportunity to upgrade.

Mr.ac 09-04-2015 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Scenic Driver (Post 2378974)
It should last longer than that it if wasn't abused. I''ll be at 80k in a few weeks, my clutch is still fine.

Awesome. I was just throwing out numbers based off my mr2s. I'm the second owner of my 91 to my knowledge the clutch was never replaced till I got it at 100k miles then I upgraded to a twin plate.

My 88 I'm the third owner, original clutch is still at 250k, it's at the point where it's barely slipping on hard shifts. My bro on the other hand has a 91 turbo, but he was into drag racing. He got the car with 90k miles and at 140k his clutch went out. So it just depends how it was used.

rookie 09-04-2015 12:39 PM

In my experience, the clutch should last quite a long time. I've had a clutch last me 150k+ miles with a couple track days early on.

Replacement cost including labor depends on who and where you go. I'd buy my own parts and shop around for shops that will install the parts (some won't, but most will). Including parts that you buy yourself and the labor, you'll be looking at $800-$1500 total.

edigeek 09-04-2015 01:41 PM

they last 150k if you take good care of them. After I got my brz, I watched this video since the reason why I got my brz is because my bimmer clutch went out at 146k and instead of fixing it right away, i got the brz and I'm turning my bimmer to a project car.

By the way, I got a 2014 BRZ limited, 7,670 miles for 23,500. Keep in mind that there are other fees, $500 for dealer, around $1500 taxes, $150 plates and registration..

All depends on the state you live in


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