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Captain Snooze 07-09-2015 05:46 PM

Is the BRZ/FR-S/86 a sports car?
 
A forum member recently posted that the FR-S is not a sports car.
I thought this was interesting.
I read the definition at Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_car and whilst I thought the definition is accurate different cars can have varying degrees of "sportiness". At U.S.News they list the FR-S and BRZ as the equal 3rd (along with MX5) and 5th best affordable sports cars respectively. http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...e-Sports-Cars/

I propose the BRZ/FR-S/86 are sports cars and would like to read discussion for and against.

TylerLieberman 07-09-2015 06:02 PM

Brb.

I'm gonna go change the definition on Wikipedia so everybody is wrong

Dream20b 07-09-2015 06:05 PM

Low cost of ownership means non sports car. Lol.

tahdizzle 07-09-2015 06:09 PM

I think the twins are sports cars.

But what are our options?

Muscle car? Luxury car? Exotic Car? Family Car? Sports car?

http://www.nadaguides.com/Cars/2015/Subaru/Sport

This website labels the BRZ as a sports car.

I am sure there are plenty of people on this forum and in general will do the standard "Its a sporty car, but its not a sports car."

I think it fits the bill of a sports car, even in its 2+2 layout. Its not a fast sports car, but I believe it is a sports car.

cdrazic93 07-09-2015 06:10 PM

My insurance definitely label it as a sports car.....

tahdizzle 07-09-2015 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dream20b (Post 2315782)
Low cost of ownership means non sports car. Lol.


high cost of ownership is not a pre-requisite to be a sports car.

Now in general, sports cars have a higher cost of ownership.

And the cost of ownership varies on usage. Going through 5-6 sets of tires a year is on top of other consumables at the track = high cost of ownership.

Tcoat 07-09-2015 06:15 PM

I have been struggling with this since I bought the car and have decided to remain completely, positively and without a doubt, on the fence. Without one single iron clad definition of what constitutes a "sports car" we can debate the pros and cons all day and never reach a consensus. This has been hotly debated many times and I must admit I have argued the case for both sides depending upon what my particular thought was at that given time.
By the available classification definitions alone it is a sports car, grand touring car or even (gasp) a "pony" car. In it's stock form I think it is a hybrid of all three and really can't be slotted in any one group with 100% certainty but just a few mods could push individual cars into one of those three categories.
Just another page in the poor thing's identity crisis.

juliog 07-09-2015 06:32 PM

Spoon president made up his mind:
http://i.imgur.com/Fm81qrE.png
http://i.imgur.com/8ztEWgC.png
http://i.imgur.com/c7hVmlp.png
http://i.imgur.com/8zpbD64.png

funwheeldrive 07-09-2015 06:45 PM

Why wouldn't it be a sports car?

Tcoat 07-09-2015 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive (Post 2315830)
Why wouldn't it be a sports car?

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89274

swarb 07-09-2015 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juliog (Post 2315818)
Spoon president made up his mind:

Spoon has no credit on anything non-honda. They are hurting now they have zero non-fwd "sports cars" to develop or sell their average "race" products. So they make some socks and some aero mirrors. Instead of innovating, competing, and making products for the 86, they've decided they can't hang with the big boys of the aftermarket and threw in the towel.

soulreapersteve 07-09-2015 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdrazic93 (Post 2315788)
My insurance definitely label it as a sports car.....

I wish my insurance didn't label it as a sports car. Would be much more cheaper in monthly payments!

Tcoat 07-09-2015 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soulreapersteve (Post 2315881)
I wish my insurance didn't label it as a sports car. Would be much more cheaper in monthly payments!

Check out the rates for an Evo or Sti sometime if you want to feel better about what you pay.

soulreapersteve 07-09-2015 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2315888)
Check out the rates for an Evo or Sti sometime if you want to feel better about what you pay.


Yeah.... ~375 dollars for an STI. How these fellas around my age can afford it without having a decently paying job is beyond me! Probably go without no insurance, just like a lot of the Honda guys around here.


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