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azynneo 06-30-2015 01:03 AM

Went back to stock, different AFR?
 
So I went back to stock from JDL and as I accelerate my AFR normally reads 14.5 on average and doesn't move much while on my JDL. Now I'm back on stock and as I accelerate it drops down to 11.1 and sits there until I shift back up. Is this normal since there is more air restriction?

Turdinator 06-30-2015 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by azynneo (Post 2304196)
So I went back to stock from JDL and as I accelerate my AFR normally reads 14.5 on average and doesn't move much while on my JDL. Now I'm back on stock and as I accelerate it drops down to 11.1 and sits there until I shift back up. Is this normal since there is more air restriction?

JDL what? Header? EL or UEL? Cat back? Font pipe? Overpipe?

Apoc 06-30-2015 01:09 AM

Were you going WOT with the JDL header and seeing 14.5 AFR? What tuning are you using?

azynneo 06-30-2015 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Turdinator (Post 2304202)
JDL what? Header? EL or UEL? Cat back? Font pipe? Overpipe?

UEL Headers, Perrin cbe, frontpipe is catted, jdl overpipe

azynneo 06-30-2015 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Apoc (Post 2304203)
Were you going WOT with the JDL header and seeing 14.5 AFR? What tuning are you using?

Yes, I was going WOT, using Bills 8.88 Delicious Tuning tune

steve99 06-30-2015 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by azynneo (Post 2304206)
Yes, I was going WOT, using Bills 8.88 Delicious Tuning tune

Back to stock tune as well with stock header ?

Stock tune runs quite rich targets 10.7 afr high rpm wot

Most tuners would target arround 12.5 afr wot on petrol, 14.5 is way lean for petrol wot high rpm suspect you had air leak near 02 sensor or something weird going on

Turdinator 06-30-2015 01:18 AM

Did you change tune when you went back to stock header?

WHITE 06-30-2015 01:18 AM

I'm assuming you flashed back to stock tune.

Edit: Well seems a couple of us were typing at the same time.

azynneo 06-30-2015 01:20 AM

The tune is still at 8.88, according to Zach it's safe to stick at the current tune I have right now. I'm at a stage 2 supercharged tune


Yes sir,

All good to return to stock exhaust.

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 11:41 AM, azynneo@aol.com <azynneo@aol.com> wrote:
Zach,

Is the stage 2 innovate 8.88 tune safe if i ever go back to all stock?

(forgot to mention I'm supercharged)

Apoc 06-30-2015 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by azynneo (Post 2304206)
Yes, I was going WOT, using Bills 8.88 Delicious Tuning tune

Did it stay that high for the whole RPM range? if so that is way too lean. If you are back to a stock tune I would expect to see a rich AFR like 11. What intake do you have?

azynneo 06-30-2015 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Apoc (Post 2304222)
Did it stay that high for the whole RPM range? if so that is way too lean. If you are back to a stock tune I would expect to see a rich AFR like 11. What intake do you have?

When I'm cruising now it stays around 14-15. When I go WOT it drops to 11-12. I'm using stock intake with a drop-in filter.

As for the JDL's I would go WOT and I'd hit maybe 13.8-14 there would be a very small chance I'd hit anything lower than that.

If this is normal it'd be nice, I was just afraid of my crap blowing due to low afr.

Apoc 06-30-2015 01:28 AM

You are supercharged?

WHITE 06-30-2015 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by azynneo (Post 2304226)
When I'm cruising now it stays around 14-15. When I go WOT it drops to 11-12. I'm using stock intake with a drop-in filter.

As for the JDL's I would go WOT and I'd hit maybe 13.8-14 there would be a very small chance I'd hit anything lower than that.

If this is normal it'd be nice, I was just afraid of my crap blowing due to low afr.

You got it backwards. You want a lower afr with forced induction. Your 14-15 afr is bad. Thats a lean condition, meaning your risking detonation.

Apoc 06-30-2015 01:35 AM

You need to go to a tuner. Running 14 AFR with FI is bad. You seem to have little knowledge on what you should be expecting for datalogs on a supercharged FA20. You need to get educated.


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