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M23 02-26-2015 02:19 PM

Cusco Touring-A Shocks/Struts - OEM Replacements
 
Just starting a new thread for the new Cusco replacement shocks/struts - Touring-A model.

I've read CSG is testing them currently. Though, if anyone else gets them in the future, or if any shop gets the chance to test them, please share your impressions/reviews about them.

Comparisons against similar products are more than welcome as well (eg: Koni, Bilstein, etc.)

http://www.cuscousainc.com/products/...touring-a.html
http://blog.cuscousainc.com/?p=642

http://www.cuscousainc.com/media/wys...clean_copy.jpg

Hyper4mance2k 02-26-2015 03:33 PM

I would love to find out if these adjust compression & rebound together, or just rebound like the Koni's.

G_Ride 02-26-2015 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyper4mance2k (Post 2148421)
I would love to find out if these adjust compression & rebound together, or just rebound like the Koni's.

Same here. I'm also very curious how these compare to Konis.

Hyper4mance2k 02-27-2015 12:52 PM

Here's Cusco's reply.

Quote:

Hello Adrian :

Thanks for inquiry.
Touring - A is upgrade kit for stock suspension.
Which is stroke is about same as stock shock.
It is 40 steps adjustment for rebound only.
20th step is about same as stock shock.
and the hardest set is 140 % stiffer than stock.

Please check our link here :
http://www.cuscousainc.com/downloads/dl/file/id/230/cusco_touring_a_suspension_kit_new_in_2014_for_sub aru_applications.pdf

and for Electric control unit :
http://www.cuscousainc.com/products/...ontroller.html

Black Tire 02-27-2015 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M23 (Post 2148305)
Just starting a new thread for the new Cusco replacement shocks/struts - Touring-A model.

I've read CSG is testing them currently. Though, if anyone else gets them in the future, or if any shop gets the chance to test them, please share your impressions/reviews about them.

Comparisons against similar products are more than welcome as well (eg: Koni, Bilstein, etc.)

http://www.cuscousainc.com/products/...touring-a.html
http://blog.cuscousainc.com/?p=642

http://www.cuscousainc.com/media/wys...clean_copy.jpg

While these should work well with the stock springs, I am very interested how they will work with springs like the Swift Sport, or Swift Spec R. Cusco states on their website that these shocks will work with aftermarket lowering springs that are designed to work with the stock suspension. Also, I would like to see how this setup would compare to the new Tein Flex Z or Tein Flex A.

simpleisbest 02-27-2015 02:15 PM

I would bet they are just rebranded Koni's with a clicker added....LETS SEE SOME DYNOS!

Hyper4mance2k 02-27-2015 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simpleisbest (Post 2149895)
I would bet they are just rebranded Koni's with a clicker added....LETS SEE SOME DYNOS!

I highly doubt they're rebranded Koni's. I have recently contected both Koni and Cusco and the are drastically different. The Cusco's are the same as stock on click 20 (as posted above) and will go as firm as 140% above stock, where as the Koni's are as as firm as stock on 0 setting and at full 2 turns are 100% stiffer than stock. Both are only rebound adjustment.

Koni stated most customers with aftermarket springs run their shocks 1/2 to 1 turn.

simpleisbest 02-27-2015 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyper4mance2k (Post 2149945)
I highly doubt they're rebranded Koni's. I have recently contected both Koni and Cusco and the are drastically different. The Cusco's are the same as stock on click 20 (as posted above) and will go as firm as 140% above stock, where as the Koni's are as as firm as stock on 0 setting and at full 2 turns are 100% stiffer than stock. Both are only rebound adjustment.

Koni stated most customers with aftermarket springs run their shocks 1/2 to 1 turn.

Valving changes. You know you can have koni yellow's revalved, right? I ran OTS koni's for almost 2 years on stock springs. From day 1 they were way softer than stock on full soft...

Kostamojen 03-01-2015 08:57 PM

So with the Econ2 its around $1600? Yikes. Wish the Econ2 was cheaper...

But for $1000 its around $100 more than the Bilsteins and you get adjustability.

Hyper4mance2k 03-02-2015 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kostamojen (Post 2152604)
So with the Econ2 its around $1600? Yikes. Wish the Econ2 was cheaper...

But for $1000 its around $100 more than the Bilsteins and you get adjustability.

But no warranty... Our 3 shock options sure are give & take... There's no clear winner in all categories.

CSG David 03-04-2015 08:11 PM

The upper limits of the shock are pretty good. It makes the car very predictable and easier to drive...as if this car isn't easy enough to drive already...

Hyper4mance2k 03-04-2015 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG David (Post 2156687)
The upper limits of the shock are pretty good. It makes the car very predictable and easier to drive...as if this car isn't easy enough to drive already...

But are they $150 better than the Bilsteins. I'm pretty sure I might go with the Bilsteins, unless someone out there can convince me otherwise.

CSG David 03-05-2015 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyper4mance2k (Post 2156903)
But are they $150 better than the Bilsteins. I'm pretty sure I might go with the Bilsteins, unless someone out there can convince me otherwise.

That is unconfirmed. There has not been a back to back to back comparison of these setups. Bilstein is a fixed spec. Koni has some adjustment. Cusco has a ton of adjustments. If you understand the suspension market well, Cusco works closely with a very well known suspension company (deals mainly with OEM markets) to co-develop their kit. I can't tell you if it is better than one another or not, but I can tell you they do pretty well especially as a replacement shock. :)

Kostamojen 03-05-2015 02:23 AM

Just to clarify, are they or are they not designed to work with lowering springs?


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