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GirlyScions 06-03-2012 09:02 PM

What do you wish was changed about the brz/frs?
 
Leave out the rear seats. They really aren't practical at all. Push the cabin back a bit/a lil longer hood and drop in a 3.0 300hp boxer 6. They might even been able to get closer to 50/50 weight distribution with the cabin pushed back. Sure they wanted a light car but at 2800 pounds I don't see why they didn't just go 6.

Just sayin. Still im the most intrigued about this car but ill wait for a turbo version..

zberch 06-03-2012 09:03 PM

Make more
Convertible out now

feedbag 06-03-2012 09:10 PM

More comfortable headrest.

Oriental Life 06-03-2012 09:12 PM

Nothing!

Its a brilliant creature as is. Every detail has a function. If you start improving one thing you'll destroy something else and eventually kill the essence of this car.

Oh, wait! I know. How about louder horn? :) NO! It will upset weight distribution ;)

GirlyScions 06-03-2012 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oriental Life (Post 238964)
Nothing!

Its a brilliant creature as is. Every detail has a function.

So that fender vent thingy actually dose something:happy0180:

MiguelAE86 06-03-2012 09:32 PM

Uh...More wheel options in the U.S.? Especially those 16 inch watanabe-looking wheels! I WANT THEM IN THE U.S.!!

Oriental Life 06-03-2012 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GirlyScions (Post 238999)
So that fender vent thingy actually dose something:happy0180:

:clap:

Laika 06-03-2012 09:42 PM

I wish my dash would stop undressing itself. This makes me a little bit worried about the rest of the car.

http://i.imgur.com/2hgX8.jpg

(Covered under warranty, getting a new speaker grill on wednesday as mine is quite warped)

Draco-REX 06-03-2012 10:14 PM

My biggest complaint so far is the ultra-light clutch pedal. I think my left leg is atrophying.

I wonder if I can bolt in a Legacy or STI Clutch MC.

Indestruct 06-03-2012 10:19 PM

The dash collects dust really easily and it makes it look bad. The seat belt holder is pretty stupid. The straps on the back seat get stuck when you throw the backseat closed quickly. Why is the battery so damn big? (looks really heavy). The NAV is the worst NAV in the world, my iphone is 100x better. Black cover on the bumper is pretty stupid. Get rid of the cup holder in the center and put a cover on it so I can throw stuff inside (like coins). Get rid of the torque loss and add 20 more hp. And a real fender vent!
I can keep going but overall the car is a blast to own, I get compliments everyday

soconfoozed 06-03-2012 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laika (Post 239045)

I have the same issue, but on the driver's side. Going to get it taken care of this week.

soconfoozed 06-03-2012 11:15 PM

I'll preface this by saying I love my BRZ and I would happily buy it all over again. This is the car I was waiting for...it really does address a market need that everybody else is choosing to ignore. I hope Toyota and Subaru profit for their bold choice.

Let's see, a few things off the top of my head...
  • Hilariously inaccurate instantaneous fuel economy. 127.0mpg? Yes, please! Yeah, let's slow down the moving average a bit here, hm? The average fuel economy is of course fine.
  • The manual refers to the "thousandths" and "hundredths" places with regard to setting the shift alarm. D'oh. Thousands. Hundreds. That's a silly mistake. The manual is part of the ownership experience. Take the time to get it right.
  • More shift alarm hate! Good: having a shift alarm. Bad: having a shift alarm that chimes over its own little speaker, buried somewhere in the dash, such that it's inaudible when the stereo is at even modest volume. Oh well. I pretty much know what the car sounds like now.
  • iPod/iPhone control when connected by Bluetooth and USB is broken broken broken. The dock and Bluetooth connections fight each other. I could rant for pages about how terrible the entire headunit/nav system is, or even how the auto industry in general has gotten this dead wrong, over and over and over again...but I'll just say this thing sucks, and I'll live with it.
  • Center High Mount Stop Lamp just looks like an afterthought, which is sad considering how beautiful the rest of the car is. Did somebody forget about this until it was time to ship?
  • Ditto RE: the "RC car" antenna (as others have referred to it), don't know why this wasn't integrated in to the rear glass in a conductive ink type approach, but I'm not an RF guy.
  • Flipping between metric and imperial on the speedometer, changes aren't reflected elsewhere in the car. I understand why, but this is just goofy and careless. This is one of those times that it may be better to just leave a feature out, because you can't reasonably implement it fully.
  • There's some obnoxious hysteresis in the shift alarm, but this is probably better than having the thing bounce all over the place if you're near your shiftpoint.
  • I'm not in the automotive industry, but who are we really fooling with the rear seats, anyway? Surely not the insurance companies. Joke all you want about risk management being a sham given recent history, but insurance companies are businesses. It's their job to know the owner profile of a given car. I've heard the 2+2 could have something to do with CAFE, but I don't know enough about that. As usual, I'm incredulous. I guess you probably can fit a carseat back there. By the way, if you wiggle your finger around near the tie points, they feel like they're about 3/16" bar. Whoa.

What is the BRZ really good at, then? Fucking driving. But I'm still angry enough about all of these little things to post about it on the internet. I'm sure I'll have lots of little things to add. I haven't even had this thing a week yet.

One thing I think was really thoughtful is the little rubber lip near the phone cubby, by the USB port. Some engineer probably had to argue hard to spare this thing's life when the bean counters came around. I'm glad it survived the Design For Manufacturing review.

I also appreciate all of the little rubber washers in the engine bay, to keep the car from shaking itself apart.

The QR codes are cute, too. I wonder how many parts on my car can be uniquely identified by Subaru's inventory management software, tied to my VIN.

serialk11r 06-03-2012 11:28 PM

Er, we have quite a bit of threads on this I think but...
As someone who hasn't seen the car or planning to buy it anytime, I wish they brought lower spec, more affordable options to the US. I'd very much like basic radio system, no GPS nav, no stainless steel and leather pieces, maybe even the open diff, and DEFINITELY the 16" wheels, which look better than the 17"s anyday. I hate to say but even for people who are well off, if you're in your 20s you might not want to dump 25k on a car. You might say, well these options only cut like 1-2k off the car, but getting the price tag a little closer to a Civic or whatever makes it a more comfortable buy especially if you're say, a graduate student living on ~20-25k stipend, and are digging into your savings to get a car.

Definitely feel like they kinda missed the affordability mark, but it's understandable.

Indestruct 06-04-2012 03:07 AM

soconfoozed: You, I, and everyone else has made fun of the back seats. But believe it or not I took my dad, step mom, and sister out to dinner in my brz tonight! My sister wanted me to take it, I was hesitant, but we all managed to fit somehow. It was about 30 min of driving each way. I'm so proud of my brz, even if I was too close to the pedals to heal-toe.


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