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mikepaul21 10-25-2014 10:31 PM

where to hook up water temp
 
I'm installing my water temperature sensor tomorrow and I don't know whether to install it before or after the radiator. I feel like before the radiator would give me a better readout of what the engine is actually dealing with for heat issues, but on the other side I can also see why it would be important to see what the temperature is that engine is about to use.

wparsons 10-25-2014 11:12 PM

There is already a coolant temperature sender, you should see if you can just tap into it.

You don't want the sender anywhere associated with the rad, you want it inside the coolant loop with the thermostat closed so you're always getting an accurate reading, not just when the thermostat is open. In the block is ideal since that's the actual temperature inside the engine, and that's where the OEM sender is IIRC.

mikepaul21 10-25-2014 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 1998551)
There is already a coolant temperature sender, you should see if you can just tap into it.

You don't want the sender anywhere associated with the rad, you want it inside the coolant loop with the thermostat closed so you're always getting an accurate reading, not just when the thermostat is open. In the block is ideal since that's the actual temperature inside the engine, and that's where the OEM sender is IIRC.

anyone have any pictures of where I can find this?

Ultramaroon 10-25-2014 11:55 PM

do it via software so you don't fuck up the impedance of the sensor circuit.

Or does someone know if there's a buffer amp in the sensor itself?

mikepaul21 10-26-2014 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 1998605)
do it via software so you don't fuck up the impedance of the sensor circuit.

Or does someone know if there's a buffer amp in the sensor itself?


I already bought the gauge and it's hardwired, not connected to the OBD 2

wparsons 10-26-2014 05:23 PM

I would see if you can return it and find something that ties into the factory stuff.

Alternatively, if you have manual gearbox I think there's a spare plug in the block you can remove to add another sensor, but maybe that's on an oil passage?

wrohdejr 10-26-2014 07:38 PM

I purchased a prosport radiator hose adapter and cut into the hose that runs from the filler to the block. Temp sending unit screws into the adapter.

http://prosportgauges.com/water-temp...e-adaptor.aspx

Ultramaroon 10-26-2014 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 1999074)
I would see if you can return it and find something that ties into the factory stuff.

Alternatively, if you have manual gearbox I think there's a spare plug in the block you can remove to add another sensor, but maybe that's on an oil passage?

That's for the clutch throwout fluid.

wparsons 10-26-2014 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 1999235)
That's for the clutch throwout fluid.

Sarasm?

There's definitely an extra plug in the engine block on manual cars, just can't remember if it's coolant or oil.

Ultramaroon 10-26-2014 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 1999258)
Sarasm?

There's definitely an extra plug in the engine block on manual cars, just can't remember if it's coolant or oil.

Oh, just mixing it up. All about clutches for me this weekend
I know about the one under the A/C compressor but was unaware of any other only for the manual.

mikepaul21 10-26-2014 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrohdejr (Post 1999205)
I purchased a prosport radiator hose adapter and cut into the hose that runs from the filler to the block. Temp sending unit screws into the adapter.

http://prosportgauges.com/water-temp...e-adaptor.aspx

Is it the same hose used in in this link? http://www.autometer.com/techinfo_ne...px?pg=1&aid=19

FRSfan111 10-26-2014 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 1999258)
Sarasm?

There's definitely an extra plug in the engine block on manual cars, just can't remember if it's coolant or oil.

It's oil. That's why it leaks oil from tere on some cars lol.

zkv476 10-28-2014 06:26 PM

The port above the block next to the AC compressor is oil. There is one for manual transmissions below the block next to the outlet going to the heater core that's plugged on MT models and is coolant. I used that line for my OEM oil cooler's water line. It's right near the water pump. This port is used on AT models for cooling the AT. As suggested using the factory water temp reading would be best but if you want to go this path, you'll also need an adapter for whatever sender you need to plug into that port. The thread in the block is M14x1.5

http://i40.tinypic.com/iz9p53.jpg

Picture stolen from the FXT oil cooler DIY page: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50427

wrohdejr 10-28-2014 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikepaul21 (Post 1999350)
Is it the same hose used in in this link? http://www.autometer.com/techinfo_ne...px?pg=1&aid=19

No i tapped into the hose from the filler neck to the block.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...2018.30.20.jpg


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