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Composite 10-24-2014 09:23 AM

inlet hose void warranty?
 
So i just installed a perrin inlet hose i received from a fellow forum member and i am curious as to wether it would void my warranty with subaru if i was to bring my car in for repair or oil change. Is this something i can leave on my vehicle when i bring the car in for service? or would i have to remove the part prior to bringing in the car? I have read two different things when searching the forums so i am a bit confused at this point. Also the the inlet tube get so close to touching one of the belts or pullies, has anyone else noticed this?

Thank you to all in advance

@Art_Mighty 10-24-2014 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Composite (Post 1996495)
I have read two different things when searching the forums so i am a bit confused at this point.

Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act

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Will using 'aftermarket' or recycled parts void my warranty?
No. An 'aftermarket' part is a part made by a company other than the vehicle manufacturer or the original equipment manufacturer. A 'recycled' part is a part that was made for and installed in a new vehicle by the manufacturer or the original equipment manufacturer, and later removed from the vehicle and made available for resale or reuse. Simply using an aftermarket or recycled part does not void your warranty. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act makes it illegal for companies to void your warranty or deny coverage under the warranty simply because you used an aftermarket or recycled part. Still, if it turns out that the aftermarket or recycled part was itself defective or wasn't installed correctly, and it causes damage to another part that is covered under the warranty, the manufacturer or dealer has the right to deny coverage for that part and charge you for any repairs. The FTC says the manufacturer or dealer must show that the aftermarket or recycled part caused the need for repairs before denying warranty coverage.

...so your experience may very. My personal advice is to install a turbo, void your warranty proudly and be done with it. :thumbsup:

zc06_kisstherain 10-24-2014 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Composite (Post 1996495)
So i just installed a perrin inlet hose i received from a fellow forum member and i am curious as to wether it would void my warranty with subaru if i was to bring my car in for repair or oil change. Is this something i can leave on my vehicle when i bring the car in for service? or would i have to remove the part prior to bringing in the car? I have read two different things when searching the forums so i am a bit confused at this point. Also the the inlet tube get so close to touching one of the belts or pullies, has anyone else noticed this?

Thank you to all in advance

so many threads about this.

1. remove and reinstall OEM
Pro: comfortable going in dealer
Con: time waste removing/reinstall

2. Leave mod in
Pro: don't have waste time on removing/reinstall
Con: Dealer might bitching and you may lose warranty blah blah blah and other hassle

common sense.

Mike&Ike 10-24-2014 11:59 AM

Call your dealership and talk to the service manager. Every dealership will be different so some might be mod friendly while others are not. Ask them you are thinking about doing some modifications and what they think about it.

phrosty 10-24-2014 12:04 PM

FWIW when I bought my car in for the B01 ECU update, they could not replicate the idle dip issue and noted I had an intake that might be causing it. I showed them the TSB and they said they hadn't seen it, flashed me right away.

I have never seen them note its presence during any other time I've been there (scheduled maintenance, warranty work for tail light condensation)

FRSBRZGT86FAN 10-24-2014 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by phrosty (Post 1996640)
FWIW when I bought my car in for the B01 ECU update, they could not replicate the idle dip issue and noted I had an intake that might be causing it. I showed them the TSB and they said they hadn't seen it, flashed me right away.

I have never seen them note its presence during any other time I've been there (scheduled maintenance, warranty work for tail light condensation)

Lmao
*service manager see cai*
Voids warranty for tail lights

cdrazic93 10-24-2014 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by @Art_Mighty (Post 1996503)
...so your experience may very. My personal advice is to install a turbo, void your warranty proudly and be done with it. :thumbsup:

I second the turbo option.

cdrazic93 10-24-2014 02:04 PM

Can we get that magnuson moss act stickied on this board?

Composite 10-24-2014 05:34 PM

Im sad : ( i dont want ti be changing parts out everytime i do an oil change. I live in a townhome and i can change my oil on my own here.

wparsons 10-24-2014 05:50 PM

1) They can't void warranty, they can only deny claims.

2) To deny the claim, they have to be able to prove the modification(s) is the cause of the issue and not a legit warranty issue.

So if you have an inlet pipe and have issues with your clutch, transmission, etc you're fine. If you have a vacuum leak caused by the inlet pipe (or installation), you're on your own.

steve99 10-24-2014 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Composite (Post 1997215)
Im sad : ( i dont want ti be changing parts out everytime i do an oil change. I live in a townhome and i can change my oil on my own here.

If you change any component or work on the car yourself or get someone else even a qualified/certified person to work on your car their is always a possibility of issues with warantee if something goes wrong.

The dealer or Toyota/subaru will always try and blame the aftermarket part or the work done by someone else other than a dealer for the problem.

All the magnussun moss act thingo says is they need to have justification for doing so. Just remember they have trained certified technicians , engineers , lawyers and a ship load of money and time to stuff you around, while you try and fight it.

If your car has no engine related issues leave the inlet hose in, if its got any kind of engine issue idle dip rattle oil use ect swap it back to stock else may be in for a fight as they will try to aportion blame to the aftermarket bit.

inlet is causing idle problems due upsetting MAF readings
it did not seal properly and let dust in damaging engine.
some other component near inlet was damaged/dislodged during installation of inlet causing issue ect

IceFyre13th 10-24-2014 06:42 PM

Yes, your screwed.....did you know driving your car modifies the tires by removing rubber......this voids your warranty.

Gas in the tank not from the factory....yep warranty voided

starting the engine, bearings loose material from friction......warranty voided

did you sit on the seat, the foam was crushed a little an obvious modification.....no more warranty.

Did you wax the paint........that is a modification too......no more warranty for you.

Did you actually use the :search: on the forum.......now your forum warranty is void, this could also mean your forum privileges could be revoked..............

Am I being sarcastic.......you decide, By the way........that voids your warranty too

Composite 10-26-2014 02:12 AM

: ) now im even more confused than when i started Ice


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