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toby714 10-17-2014 01:19 AM
is there a shorter endlink out there? mcs motion control damper
 
Update: problem solved continue to post 12 for solution

My whiteline front endlink is too long even at the shortest setting for my motion control suspenion dampers with stock sway bar. does anyone know of any other alternatives? i found this generic whiteline KLC180-195 that can go 190mm.

i get poppng sounds and i assume its the binding of the endlink

I was also thinking maybe i can modify my whiteline one by making cutting the connecting rod or buy a new connecting rod. the problem is figuring out the pitch for the ball joint

toby714 10-17-2014 02:37 AM
i also found this if anybody wants to be these a try. from awr

http://www.awrracing.com/endLinkImg/endlinkAsstLG.jpg

toby714 10-17-2014 03:18 AM
ill be hitting up mcmasters in santa fe and see if i can get a shorter threaded tube for my whiteline one.

illmattic 10-17-2014 10:36 AM
I just run the KLC 180-195. Seems to be fine and my car is pretty low. The only thing is it pop and creaks and stuff like that. Either way tho the front sway bar is coming off next year.

s13kid989 10-17-2014 03:40 PM
With MCS coil overs I had my car about an inch lower then stock, and with the regular whiteline endlinks the sway bar was to close to the lower arm. I contacted Whiteline and was told to order part number KLC180-195

CSG Mike 10-17-2014 04:08 PM
There shouldn't be any pops or creaks. Double check your work.

illmattic 10-17-2014 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 1988019)
There shouldn't be any pops or creaks. Double check your work.
I've checked it multiple times. Its just the way it is.

CSG Mike 10-17-2014 04:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by illmattic (Post 1988023)
I've checked it multiple times. Its just the way it is.
I'm sorry, but I don't find that acceptable for any high end suspension. I've been working with high end suspension setups for years now, and anytime there's creaks and popping, there is binding or abnormal wear and tear somewhere.

Take a diagnostic step and "paint" all the suspect areas with a chalk pen, drive around the block (replicate the noise), and revisit.

Have the dampers dynoed to verify it is not the damper itself.

We've done multiple MCS/JRZ/SRC/AST setups, and none of them make noise.

toby714 10-17-2014 05:15 PM
im taking out my whiteline endlinks because it's too long and adding a lot of preload to the sway bars. i woll get back to you guys when i sort this out

protpibe 10-17-2014 05:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by toby714 (Post 1987244)
My whiteline front endlink is too long even at the shortest setting for my motion control suspenion dampers with stock sway bar. does anyone know of any other alternatives? i found this generic whiteline KLC180-195 that can go 190mm. my last resort is cutting and welding my factory front endlinks. I plan to track with my setup.

i get poppng sounds and i assume its the binding of the endlink

I was also thinking maybe i can modify my whiteline one by making cutting the connecting rod or buy a new connecting rod. the problem is figuring out the pitch for the ball joint
I have a set of those Whiteline endlinks that I'm not using anymore if you're interested in picking up a used set

Captain Snooze 10-17-2014 07:03 PM
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I bought some cut to length end links. Saved me a bunch of time.

toby714 10-17-2014 08:33 PM
i knew it was the endlinks and here it is contacting the inner wells.
http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/...ps16542aa5.jpg

as you can see in the picture, the whiteline endlinks sit a tad higher
http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/...ps02fd7a28.jpg
i went ahead and got a milwaukee saw and cut a decent portion off. whoever is considering hacking away at their endlinks should do so at their own risk. i'm not responsible for any injurys or deaths lol

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3215a50c.jpg

took it for a test drive just earliar and now its fine!

continuecrushing 10-17-2014 08:43 PM
plus you got some weight reduction in there too

Wepeel 10-19-2014 08:28 PM
What I posted in another thread:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wepeel (Post 1621802)
The BRZ-specific Whiteline ones that come with their front bar are KLC-179. These are spec'd to range from 200-250mm in length. At their shortest setting, I still had contact issues with the WL front adjustable bar and the control arm on coilovers when running the bar on full stiff (a lot of coils bring the control arm closer to the swaybar). Whiteline has another generic endlink, KLC180-195, that is similar but can go shorter, 190-215mm is the spec, and these work perfectly.

Odi at Feal suspension also includes a shortened, OEM-style endlink with his 441 coilovers. It is non adjustable, and is 190mm in length. Odi does sell these without the coilover kit if you email him.

The Whiteline KLC180-195 or the Feal one would probably work well in your situation.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61472


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