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oppiee 10-02-2014 11:45 PM

Quick question about manual shifting
 
Hey guys,

I got a quick question on manual shifting.

I know you are not suppose to skip gears when you up shift.
However, sometimes when you come to a stop say from gear 5 and you brake...then need to go again but you are at a speed for gear 3. Its ok to skip gear 4 and just go to 3 and accelerate?

Wont kill the tranny right?

904FRSlow 10-02-2014 11:54 PM

Based on my experience on forza. If you are downshifting then you could go from 5 to 1 if you are at a stop

oppiee 10-03-2014 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 904FRSlow (Post 1970205)
Based on my experience on forza. If you are downshifting then you could go from 5 to 1 if you are at a stop

Forza Awesome HAHA.

gramicci101 10-03-2014 12:10 AM

As long as you let the synchros do their jobs you're fine. It helps to rev match on the downshift.

fatalelement 10-03-2014 12:24 AM

A generally good rule of thumb for whether or not something is "killing" your tranny is if you wince when you feel or hear what you just did. Not a catch all, but generally when the car seems extremely unhappy about the idea you just had, you should take its advice ;)

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stugray 10-03-2014 01:19 AM

The transmission does not have any magic in it that knows if you skip any gears, upshifting or down.

You can skip from any gear to any other gear if you know what you are doing.
caveat: I essentially never downshift to first ever, unless stopped, just an old habit.

If I am passing someone, I might wind it out in third or fourth, then just drop to 6th and coast back to the speed limit.

Or when I am coasting to a stop, I might leave it in a high gear all the way down to 1000 RPM, then slip out into neutral, and choose to coast to a stop, or pick 2nd or 3rd if the light changes and I need to go again.

If you make the bigger jumps slowly (letting the synchros work) or rev match, you are not being hard on the tranny.

7thgear 10-07-2014 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oppiee (Post 1970193)
I know you are not suppose to skip gears when you up shift.



Whyyyyy do you "know" this? Who told you this?

This is a myth that's been present ever since the dawn of time it seems...


As stugray says, the conventional gearbox does not care.




Put it in whatever gear you want at any time


accelerate in 1st, shift to 2nd, then plot it into 5th and cruise


you can go from 6th to 1st when slowing down.. it wont care, so long as your speed is appropriate for the gear and you match the revs

fatalelement 10-07-2014 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7thgear (Post 1975021)
Whyyyyy do you "know" this? Who told you this?

This is a myth that's been present ever since the dawn of time it seems...


As stugray says, the conventional gearbox does not care.




Put it in whatever gear you want at any time


accelerate in 1st, shift to 2nd, then plot it into 5th and cruise


you can go from 6th to 1st when slowing down.. it wont care, so long as your speed is appropriate for the gear and you match the revs

If it doesn't let you skip gears, congratulations, when did you become an F1 driver??

:P

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apexifd 10-07-2014 10:21 PM

I used to do a 1st, 3rd, and 5th upshift and skip 2nd and 4th with my FD3S. but when downshifting it really depends on what speed and how quickly do I need to slow down.

Generally, downshifting before entering a turn, it's always 5-4-3-2, and I rarely shift into 1st unless I am dead slow or completely stop.

In the regular city driving, it really just downshift to match speed for the rpm, and I usually aim for 3k-3.5k.

I am still getting use to the FRS 6 speed as the car has close gear ratio comparing to all the other 5 speed tranny that I have been driven.

Practice heel/toe or double clutch!!

7thgear 10-07-2014 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apexifd (Post 1975778)
Generally, downshifting before entering a turn, it's always 5-4-3-2,



see I just stay in whatever gear I'm in while braking... then shift into whatever gear I need for exit before I finish my braking


I don't understand why people go 5-4-3-2


the engine braking in production cars is negligible

pushrod 10-07-2014 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7thgear (Post 1975820)
see I just stay in whatever gear I'm in while braking... then shift into whatever gear I need for exit before I finish my braking


I don't understand why people go 5-4-3-2


the engine braking in production cars is negligible

I go:

old, correct gear ---> new, correct gear.

jeffchap 10-07-2014 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7thgear (Post 1975820)
the engine braking in production cars is negligible




And brake pads are cheaper than clutches.

pushrod 10-07-2014 11:03 PM

Engine braking with RWD is a great way to spin the car on snow or ice.

AdrianG 10-07-2014 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7thgear (Post 1975820)
see I just stay in whatever gear I'm in while braking... then shift into whatever gear I need for exit before I finish my braking


I don't understand why people go 5-4-3-2


the engine braking in production cars is negligible

It's best to downshift so that you're always in an appropriate gear to accelerate. If someone is about to smash into you from behind you can abandon your turn and accelerate to avoid the collision.



- AdrianG


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