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cdrazic93 08-01-2014 03:19 PM

Hmmm...
 
What kind of work would it take to add an electric motor to the trunk of this car? Effectively making it a hybrid.

King Tut 08-01-2014 03:20 PM

Go Home, You're Drunk

cdrazic93 08-01-2014 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 1877509)
Go Home, You're Drunk

The only other way to get more power and better fuel economy would be to turn it into a turbo diesel.

King Tut 08-01-2014 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cdrazic93 (Post 1877525)
The only other way to get more power and better fuel economy would be to turn it into a turbo diesel.

Go Home, You're Drunk.

sklimo 08-01-2014 03:36 PM

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hypercarfanatic 08-01-2014 03:49 PM

^ This

I get what you are trying to do, increase torque ect., but trying to put in a whole electric engine will cost a shit ton. Not only do you have to get the engine, but you need to reconfigure the engine bay along with just about everything else.

I know next to nothing about swapping engines, but I do know that undertaking something like this would be so cost intensive that you would be better off building an engine for more power.

My .02

cdrazic93 08-01-2014 04:37 PM

Purely from an engineering standpoint, people make lawn mowers do 130 and V8 barstools. It's not about being cost efficent. It's about whether it's feasible or not. There's many a time I find myself thinking wild and crazy ideas just because I can. Sure it would cost probably 2-3 times what the car is worth, but it would be the first of it's kind and one hell of a project.

I could have reiterated all your comments 2 years ago about turbocharging a stock motor with 12.5:1 CR. Think outside the box people.

gramicci101 08-01-2014 05:34 PM

It would add a LOT of weight to the rear end of the car. Large electric motors and their storage cells are heavy as shit. You would need to do a lot of suspension work to make the car handle well again.

What you could do is put a turbine on the driveshaft at the middle joint, use the normal driveshaft rotation to pressurize a hydraulic accumulator, and then when you want launch assist you could dump pressure back through the turbine to spin the driveshaft. You would need something to disengage the clutch when this happened so you don't spin the engine.

Ford did this with their F-350 Tonka concept truck.

NWFRS 08-01-2014 05:41 PM

I wouldn't go fiddling with the Scion.

Get a Fiat X1-9 if you want to build an electric. :-)

AJPG 08-01-2014 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cdrazic93 (Post 1877649)
Purely from an engineering standpoint, people make lawn mowers do 130 and V8 barstools. It's not about being cost efficent. It's about whether it's feasible or not. There's many a time I find myself thinking wild and crazy ideas just because I can. Sure it would cost probably 2-3 times what the car is worth, but it would be the first of it's kind and one hell of a project.

I could have reiterated all your comments 2 years ago about turbocharging a stock motor with 12.5:1 CR. Think outside the box people.

(-_-)

wheelhaus 08-01-2014 06:05 PM

Sure it can be done. It would att a lot of weight, it would be terribly expensive, it would require a machine shop, an automotive mechanical engineer, and an electrical engineer at minimum.

But why?

I guess it could be done for shits and giggles, but... So could a lot of things. Like covering the car with shag carpet and giving it cat ears and an exhaust that meows.

strat61caster 08-01-2014 06:50 PM

Gotcha, I'll give you the blueprints for free:

Get two electric motors, associated battery packs and some chain, weld gears to the driveshafts and attach the electric motors with chains (dat S500 sounds). Place 2 buttons on the steering wheel: 1-Discharge, 2-Charge. When you want the go put the car in neutral and hit discharge woop torque, then if you have time before you hit the tree on the outside of the next corner hit charge flipping the motor to a generator which will provide all your engine braking and then-some while charging the battery for corner out powaaah.

Step 2: Go race a 918

:burnrubber:

cdrazic93 08-01-2014 11:06 PM

It's like communism on this forum, you get smacked and/or verbally reprimanded for not thinking like everyone else, good lord.

cdrazic93 08-01-2014 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gramicci101 (Post 1877742)
What you could do is put a turbine on the driveshaft at the middle joint, use the normal driveshaft rotation to pressurize a hydraulic accumulator, and then when you want launch assist you could dump pressure back through the turbine to spin the driveshaft. You would need something to disengage the clutch when this happened so you don't spin the engine. Ford did this with their F-350 Tonka concept truck.

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