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wparsons 07-14-2014 02:55 PM

For anyone not getting an alignment after lowering...
 
After just springs and camber bolts maxed out, my car was sitting at...

Camber
FL: -1.47
FR: -1.39
RL: -2.07
RR: -2.11

Toe
F: 1/4" out
R: 1/2" in

I hadn't touched anything in the rear other than installing the springs, and up front I just put the whiteline bolts in along with the springs up front.

Specs after are -2* up front, -2.1* in the rear, 0 toe up front and 1/16" rear toe. The alignment guy I went to wanted more camber up front vs less in the rear, so I didn't actually need LCA's at all, and he got more up front with just a slight bit of slotting on the stock struts (plus the camber bolts).

The car drives totally differently now, can't wait to get it out on a track again. All the push I was fighting should be totally gone now!

Roadcone 07-14-2014 03:00 PM

lol at the 1/2" of toe out. I wish there was a non retarded option for camber plates. i cant use bolts... too much wheel/tire up front.

wparsons 07-14-2014 03:33 PM

What wheels/tires are you running? I still have space up front with 17x8's and 225/45 ZII's even at -2* from bolts/slotted upper holes. I could probably run 15mm of spacer and not be poking as well.

drewbot 07-14-2014 03:59 PM

Lol, my toe on rears was even worse OE

wparsons 07-14-2014 06:21 PM

Yeah, a good portion of the toe issues would have been present even at stock height and without the camber bolts. I had it done at CanAlignment and Scott said he has seen some cars off by A LOT right off the showroom floor.

I'm just pissed at myself that it took me so long to make time to get it done right!

2point0 07-14-2014 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 1845514)
What wheels/tires are you running? I still have space up front with 17x8's and 225/45 ZII's even at -2* from bolts/slotted upper holes. I could probably run 15mm of spacer and not be poking as well.

What offset? Mine are same size +48mm and I was really close with 225/45 MPSS. Just switched to 245/40 Conti DWs and the tire rubbed the perch. A 3mm spacer gave a teeny bit of room, then I switched to a 5mm and I'm much more comfortable with the gap.

I'm just over -1 degree with camber bolts in the bottom holes to maximize clearance at the perch.

solidONE 07-14-2014 07:13 PM

Impressive alignment rig to be able to measure to .01 accuracy. What springs did you use and how much lower?

I took my car to sears for alignment. Gave them my specs and they matched it. (-2.0~-2.3f -1.5~-1.7r) I had 2 sets of camber bolts out front in my stock suspension and measured -2.3 on one side and 2.0 on the other myself before taking it in. The before adjustment specs sears got were -3.0L and -2.7R... That's stock suspension with just camber bolts. I think their machine is either mis calibrated or drunk. -3.0 is unheard of...

wparsons 07-14-2014 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2point0 (Post 1845948)
What offset? Mine are same size +48mm and I was really close with 225/45 MPSS. Just switched to 245/40 Conti DWs and the tire rubbed the perch. A 3mm spacer gave a teeny bit of room, then I switched to a 5mm and I'm much more comfortable with the gap.

I'm just over -1 degree with camber bolts in the bottom holes to maximize clearance at the perch.

Mine are +45. I've got extended ARP studs so I can run more spacers, with 2* up front I want the wheels out a bit more so they aren't so sunken in.

Quote:

Originally Posted by solidONE (Post 1845952)
Impressive alignment rig to be able to measure to .01 accuracy. What springs did you use and how much lower?

I took my car to sears for alignment. Gave them my specs and they matched it. (-2.0~-2.3f -1.5~-1.7r) I had 2 sets of camber bolts out front in my stock suspension and measured -2.3 on one side and 2.0 on the other myself before taking it in. The before adjustment specs sears got were -3.0L and -2.7R... That's stock suspension with just camber bolts. I think their machine is either mis calibrated or drunk. -3.0 is unheard of...

Swift sport, about 1" drop.

His machine is definitely a good one, all the local racers go straight to him.

http://canalignment.com/

Anyone withing driving distance in Canada should definitely go see him for an alignment.

solidONE 07-16-2014 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 1846180)
Mine are +45. I've got extended ARP studs so I can run more spacers, with 2* up front I want the wheels out a bit more so they aren't so sunken in.



Swift sport, about 1" drop.

His machine is definitely a good one, all the local racers go straight to him.

http://canalignment.com/

Anyone withing driving distance in Canada should definitely go see him for an alignment.

Almost the exact same setup I had at one point. RPF1 17x8 +45 with 5mm spacer at the front, Swift Sport BRZ, and 2 sets of Camber SPC bolts out front. Worked well for me.


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