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WorldRallyBlueBRZ 06-29-2014 06:16 PM

federal ss595
 
Hey everyone I have a question about federal ss595 tires. I haven't seen if this has been answered on the forum. I am looking for a cheap set of tires just to beat up on and I am interested in the federal ss585, but I hear they run kinda wide. My question is will a set of 215 45 17 or 225 45 17 federal ss595 tires fit on the stock wheels or are they too wide?

BadBRZ 06-29-2014 07:04 PM

Not to wide, great tires for destroying or limited use. Had a pair on my last car and they suck as a performance tire but are cheap and can get the basic job done

WorldRallyBlueBRZ 06-30-2014 08:39 AM

Thanks, Yea I'm just looking for something to beat up on and have some fun with. I kept hearing rumors that the tires ran wide but no one ever really said how wide and i didn't want to other them and have them not fit And the website i was going to order them from was no help.

2point0 06-30-2014 03:10 PM

basically, a 235 Federal is like a 245 from most others. I ran 235/45-17 (taller than stock) with no issues (stock height) on 17x9 +28 wheels.

they're a good tire for the price.

Kostamojen 06-30-2014 03:33 PM

I used them in that size, fantastic tire for the price. Go for the 225's.

VacantSky 07-01-2014 12:10 AM

I have them in 255/40's on 17x9 RPF1's. They run really wide, and while they are fun to slide in and look meaty as hell, I can't help but think after they were broken in they feel less grippy than my old 235/45 nexen n7000's. Maybe I should have gone with a 35 side wall..

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...psb8f0587f.jpg

WorldRallyBlueBRZ 07-01-2014 10:43 AM

Awesome thanks for all the info guys. I searched on here and other forums and couldn't find an answer anywhere.

vgarcin 07-01-2014 03:54 PM

There is a misunderstanding i guess. 595rsr are awesome tyres (close from semi slick) and run wide.
Ss595 are different tyres, and are not very good. They actually kinda suck. They do not run that wide neither.

ZionsWrath 07-01-2014 04:09 PM

255s should be run with a 35 sidewall on 17" wheels, not sure why would use a 40?

2point0 07-01-2014 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZionsWrath (Post 1825210)
255s should be run with a 35 sidewall on 17" wheels, not sure why would use a 40?

Well, not really. A 40 sidewall is 10mm taller than stock, but a 35 sidewall is 15mm shorter than stock. So neither is really ideal, but a 40 is slightly closer.

245/40 is the sweet spot for nearly the same diameter as stock on a 17" wheel.

2point0 07-01-2014 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vgarcin (Post 1825172)
There is a misunderstanding i guess. 595rsr are awesome tyres (close from semi slick) and run wide.
Ss595 are different tyres, and are not very good. They actually kinda suck. They do not run that wide neither.

SS595 also run wide. Maybe not to the extent of the RSR, but I haven't run those personally. But yes, they are two totally different animals.

Kostamojen 07-02-2014 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vgarcin (Post 1825172)
There is a misunderstanding i guess. 595rsr are awesome tyres (close from semi slick) and run wide.
Ss595 are different tyres, and are not very good. They actually kinda suck. They do not run that wide neither.

I was talking the ss595's. I ran them for a bit with 225/45's on stock sized 17x7's. The tire was fine, pretty darn good actually. Better than stock for grip, and cheap.

I'm running the 595RSR's now with my 18" wheels and they are leagues better than the ss595's. Splurge the little extra for the RSR's IMO but if you want to just wear out some tires, get the ss595's super cheap.

Fish Eagle 07-02-2014 02:53 AM

The only experience I've had of SS595s is about 30 track laps that I did in an Inex Legends Racecar.
SS595s are their prescribed tyre. I wasn't impressed with the grip but I did find them easy to predict because they squeal a lot.
If you want to make a lot of noise and smoke in an affordable manner - then OK...

However, I run Federal 595RS-Rs on my S/C 86 and the RS-R is a different animal completely - excellent grip even when cold (so well suited to spirited road use), predictable, and I've had quite good life from them (I'm near the end of my second set).
IMO a far better tyre and I'd recommend RS-Rs over SS595s anyday for road and light track use.

However don't go for the 225/45-17 RS-R because it's the only size with shallower tread depth (5.2mm vs 6.5mm).
For stock rims, I'd recommend 215/45-17 or even 215/40-17 which is the only size that has a 7.5mm tread depth giving it longer life but probably a vaguer feel when new.
595RS-Rs do run wide - a 215 RS-R is similar to a 225 other brand.
See http://www.federaltire.com/download/spec595RS-R.pdf

2point0 07-02-2014 02:58 AM

@Fish Eagle, how many miles are you getting out of the RS-Rs, and what size are you running?


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