Fbm or Avo
 

Hey guys
At the moment I'm looking into getting turbo soon for my 86.
I'm thinking fbm base kit with gtx30 and 1000cc injectors but that will cost me a arm to bring into Australia.
Where as the avo would be the cheaper option but I'm not sure if it would give me the power I'm after which is about 300hp on 98ron(93oct).

Any suggestion?

with avo you'll make 300hp on 93 oct with the right tuning and exhaust if that is all you want. full blown will be able to scale much further though if you plan on going with more power later.

The avo kit is working too hard at 300whp. If you only want to get a figure and hardly use it, then go avo. But pushing avo north of 250whp is not going to be a realiable track/often-raped setup.

There is a new AVO billet turbo system coming soon which will give more power. It's being tested here in the UK.

This ^^. The standard AVO turbo is going to be working overtime at these figures.


Also I dread to think how money AVO are charging for their billet turbo upgrade option when others (FBM) can provide a billet setup from the get go a third cheaper.

my car is going to be semi daily and for the track

so the fbm would be better in the longer run then the avo?

I daily my fbm setup with no issues and the power is nice lol ;)

The Frozen North

I would have to disagree with you on making the AVO working Overtime past 250. On 8 psi of boost I made over 270, on 10 psi I made 285. Stock internals injectors and pump. Also using 91 octane here in California. At about 12 psi on 93 you'll make about 305 maybe a bit more and the turbo is not being restricted yet. What might restrict you will be the stock air box tho but that is still to be found. From my understanding this kit is not in it's efficient rate until you hit mid 16-17 for optimal power and is rated past that. (Done Research) by using 93 oct you'll be able to add more timing which will allow your tuner to play more and get you more power. On the contrary if you had access to E85 you can go Flex fuel like myself and boost well over 390 Hp on 15.5 psi ;) lol and have no issues. 17000 miles on my car and had the turbo since the 3,000 ish mark and have no issues at all. You can ask my tuner @DeliciousTuning in a PM or directly on here and explain to him what you want and maybe he can give you a better understanding in what kit would be better suited for you. If you have any AVO questions don't hesitate to ask @AVOturboworld. Both kits are nice it's just what you want out of the kit and what you want to spend and the ease of having things being shipped out to you. Their a few people that bash on the AVO kit but never really owned one or been in one and just go by word of mouth. If you have any other questions to hesitate to ask me.

if you want 300-400 whp go with FBM, gtx28, 550 injectors. I think 1000's are too big for 93 octane at 300whp. I might be wrong though. I definitely know 550's are too small for 450whp on e85.

The AVO turbo's rated air flow is for 250-400 hp, obviously the 400 side of things is on E85, but 300 on pump gas with the right free flowing exhaust will yield 300. 3" are louder, but allow you to run less boost, 2.5" are quieter but you'd have to run 1-2 psi more to get the same power figures.

Between the two, FullBlown hands down. Don't cheap out as you get what you pay for.

1000 is too small for 450w and corn

No they're not

The Frozen North

Ummmm no.

I am at 300whp at 9psi on my AVO kit. 3" turboback and a panel filter. Plenty more boost to be had.