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stock 03-10-2014 09:58 AM

Regret grippy tires?
 
Guys

I love how my car handles. Its super fun to drive and I love slipping the back end out at slow speeds sometimes. (...professional driver, closed course, no doubt :bs: )

I've been watching numerous video reviews etc. and many times people say one factor is the narrow, not so grippy tires.
I feel Ive just made a huge mistake and bought 245-40-17s for my new 17x8 rims. I know they will fit, that's NOT my issue. My issue is: I don't want to change the nature of my car.

Has anyone regretted buying grippier tires?

Can anyone recommend a Michelin Primacy replacement? (Prius tires)

sshole 03-10-2014 10:03 AM

The only con to replacing the stock tires: you get worse gas mileage.

But even that one con isn't all that much. I've seen a -1 or -2 mpg hit due to changing to decent all seasons (Goodyear Eagle Sport) and about the same or a little more on summers (Continental DW). Is it worth it to me to a) stop sooner, b) corner harder, c) have a quieter ride, d) have a more compliant ride? Yes.

utekineir 03-10-2014 10:06 AM

I like a tight feel.

Do you?

smbstyle 03-10-2014 10:34 AM

Well the question is, do you want grip?

For those people who like to slide around on the twisty roads or drift through parking lots, probably want to stick with the OEM tires.

For those who want grip, then I no, definitely don't regret it. I hated to OEM tires, was happy with the PSS, and should be much happier with the NT-01 r-comps.

Bg8780 03-10-2014 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by utekineir (Post 1587120)
I like a tight feel.

Do you?

Giggidy

stock 03-10-2014 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by utekineir (Post 1587120)
I like a tight feel.

Do you?

Loose women and tight cars?

dradernh 03-10-2014 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stock (Post 1587104)
I love how my car handles. Its super fun to drive and I love slipping the back end out at slow speeds...

I feel Ive just made a huge mistake and bought 245-40-17s for my new 17x8 rims. My issue is: I don't want to change the nature of my car.

Can anyone recommend a Michelin Primacy replacement? (Prius tires)

If you want to run the 8" wheels, and you want more OEM-like responsiveness, I'd suggest going back to a 215 tire in an all-season compound - maybe something like a Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 in either its High Performance or its Ultra High Performance version. You can read reviews and test results of the UHP version here: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....Speed+Rated%29.

This should provide you somewhat more grip than the Primacy, but in a 215 probably not so much that you couldn't still move the rear around whenever you wanted.

utekineir 03-10-2014 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stock (Post 1587272)
Loose women and tight cars?

Lets not get picky here, not all of us are male models.


:(

Deadspool 03-10-2014 11:43 AM

Even turbocharged, i regret buying grippies for daily use.

I'm shopping for some rubber that are a lot harder and last longer.

OrbitalEllipses 03-10-2014 11:43 AM

Somewhat. Taking on-ramp at 70mph without breaking traction is fun, but the sheer amount of grip becomes boring in day-to-day commute type driving.

stevo_12v 03-10-2014 12:06 PM

This is why you have more than one set of wheels.
One for daily, One for track.

CSG Mike 03-10-2014 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stock (Post 1587104)
Guys

I love how my car handles. Its super fun to drive and I love slipping the back end out at slow speeds sometimes. (...professional driver, closed course, no doubt :bs: )

I've been watching numerous video reviews etc. and many times people say one factor is the narrow, not so grippy tires.
I feel Ive just made a huge mistake and bought 245-40-17s for my new 17x8 rims. I know they will fit, that's NOT my issue. My issue is: I don't want to change the nature of my car.

Has anyone regretted buying grippier tires?

Can anyone recommend a Michelin Primacy replacement? (Prius tires)

You won't change the characteristics of the car with a larger set of stickier tires. WHat you will do, is amplify the characteristics, whether good or bad, when you're at the limit.

An understeery car will understeer more. An oversteery car will oversteer more. It'll become more difficult (impossible?) to power-oversteer.

Deadspool 03-10-2014 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevo_12v (Post 1587415)
This is why you have more than one set of wheels.
One for daily, One for track.


He mentioned nothing about track use. just daily driven.

ZionsWrath 03-10-2014 12:22 PM

OP, if you enjoy stock tire on street why replace them? I'm sure you can buy some owners are selling with low mileage because they hate them for less than any "comparable" replacement.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sshole (Post 1587116)
The only con to replacing the stock tires: you get worse gas mileage.

But even that one con isn't all that much. I've seen a -1 or -2 mpg hit due to changing to decent all seasons (Goodyear Eagle Sport) and about the same or a little more on summers (Continental DW). Is it worth it to me to a) stop sooner, b) corner harder, c) have a quieter ride, d) have a more compliant ride? Yes.

Good thing you live in VA because eagle sports are shit all seasons (i.e. any amount of snow)


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