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315FR-S 04-24-2012 05:29 PM

Nothing we didn't already know
 
http://blog.caranddriver.com/confirm...be-eventually/

not a big surprise.

Droopy 04-24-2012 05:37 PM

I like how the idiots in the comments said
Apo11o26 wrote on 04/24/2012 at 02:29 PM








They could use a cheaper base model. Some of the unnecessary features like keyless entry (for a two-door? come on, fatties), the nav system, bluetooth, HID headlights, and a couple of speakers can be done away with. I don't need any of those listed features. They could also put on 16s.

^fools the FRS is already that way, and in the article its talkin about the FRS' MSRP LOL

tripjammer 04-24-2012 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Droopy (Post 190567)
I like how the idiots in the comments said
Apo11o26 wrote on 04/24/2012 at 02:29 PM








They could use a cheaper base model. Some of the unnecessary features like keyless entry (for a two-door? come on, fatties), the nav system, bluetooth, HID headlights, and a couple of speakers can be done away with. I don't need any of those listed features. They could also put on 16s.

^fools the FRS is already that way, and in the article its talkin about the FRS' MSRP LOL

They want a base model BRZ. Some people don't like the FR-S because its a Scion. And its really not that much cheaper than the BRZ Premium.

There is a stripped Base model BRZ in japan. They want that here in the states.

Droopy 04-24-2012 06:43 PM

OOOhhh i now i get it lol getting up at 2am for work doesnt help the brain in the afternoon lol

Draco-REX 04-24-2012 06:45 PM

Or they could buy a FR-S, peel the Scion badges off and stick on some Subaru badges. *shrug*

Alias 04-24-2012 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Draco-REX (Post 190618)
Or they could buy a FR-S, peel the Scion badges off and stick on some Subaru badges. *shrug*


And still get stuck with the (likely) much higher insurance rates...

I also believe the stripper model of the BRZ is a little bit lower spec than the FRS

shaX 07 04-24-2012 07:20 PM

So does this eliminate the possibility of a TRD Supercharger option? If so, that's highly disappointing.

blur 04-24-2012 07:31 PM

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A big part of the issue here is pricing. Starting at $24,930 with a manual transmission ($26,030 with an automatic) and no factory options available, the FR-S should be a decent seller. Were Scion to add a turbocharger or any other kit, shoppers would be looking at a price tag much closer to $30,000. That’s when people start sentences with “Well, for that much money, I could just get a…” and Scion loses sales. Subaru has a bit more flexibility in pricing because, versus Scion, the brand isn’t so downmarket and has better-off customers.
I love how the article fails to mention that if it comes as a Toyota, the price tag will be right at home, and the fact that nothing in the 30K range will compare to a turbo FR-S, since the base is already called a better car than the 370z. This car has no real competition, Toyota will realize that soon. A turbo version will sell like hot cakes, hell, tuners are already doing it for a reason.

alluringreality 04-24-2012 07:43 PM

Actually the second sentence looks like new information:

"both the Subaru BRZ and the Scion FR-S will come with only the naturally aspirated, 2.0-liter inline four"

(I always thought the engine was a boxer layout :thumbsup:)

315FR-S 04-24-2012 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alluringreality (Post 190652)
Actually the second sentence looks like new information:

"both the Subaru BRZ and the Scion FR-S will come with only the naturally aspirated, 2.0-liter inline four"

(I always thought the engine was a boxer layout :thumbsup:)

touche good sir touche

denkigrve 04-24-2012 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alluringreality (Post 190652)
Actually the second sentence looks like new information:

"both the Subaru BRZ and the Scion FR-S will come with only the naturally aspirated, 2.0-liter inline four"

(I always thought the engine was a boxer layout :thumbsup:)

That one line proves the author knows very little about the car beyond a 200HP tag line. Sad. The car is all about so much more.

Sport-Tech 04-24-2012 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alias (Post 190621)
And still get stuck with the (likely) much higher insurance rates...

Any differences are going to be minor, it's not as if the base BRZ is $5k more than the FR-S. Remember the FR-S is about $5K more than the tC, so it's going to be bought by more moneyed (and hence older) folks - the tC's high rates won't be that relevant. And at least up here, the WRX is very expensive to insure, so Subaru products are not immune to high rates.

Laika 04-25-2012 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tripjammer (Post 190596)
They want a base model BRZ. Some people don't like the FR-S because its a Scion. And its really not that much cheaper than the BRZ Premium.

There is a stripped Base model BRZ in japan. They want that here in the states.

Although the stripped out model is PERFECT for the tuner who wants to do EVERYTHING to their BRZ, it's still pointless for us average enthusiasts who want a really base car for blasting around in since there's no LSD....and the premium has too many standard features. We'll never be happy.


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