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switchlanez 12-01-2013 01:41 PM

Anybody running 255/35R18 tire on +45 offset wheel in front?
 
I've searched haven't found anybody with the specific setup of 255/35R18 tires on 9.5 +45 offset wheels and I am concerned about the front inner clearance with the liner by the firewall or any suspension arms (not the outer fender lip/sidemarker) at full lock. I am lowered 1.4" on coilovers with -1.9 degrees of camber in front.

switchlanez 12-01-2013 10:00 PM

Anyone here with that setup? Someone told me thru PM that their rear MPSS 265/35 tires on 18x9.5 +45 wheels rub a tab where the rear bumper meets the fender. I'm thinking of going same sized wheel but 255/35 MPSS. Should I expect to rub? Does lowering it too far also increase the chance of rub? I don't want to lower more than 1.4" and hope that would be enough for the tire to fully clear.

mike the snake 12-01-2013 10:15 PM

My 265's just barely rubbed the rear fender tabs. With 255's I bet you won't rub at all.

The lower you go, the more camber you get on the rear. At first I had about 2" lower, then raised to 1.5" lower, and I still needed to trim the fender tabs. No big deal though, took 30 seconds with a dremel. With 255's you'll be fine I think.

In front, with 8.5" wheels, there's plenty of room at the fender. I could use a 5mm spacer to get perfectly flush.

Someone who's run the 9.5's in front will have to comment, but from what I've read, as long as you have coilovers you'll be OK.

hanabie 12-11-2013 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mike the snake (Post 1363166)
My 265's just barely rubbed the rear fender tabs. With 255's I bet you won't rub at all.

The lower you go, the more camber you get on the rear. At first I had about 2" lower, then raised to 1.5" lower, and I still needed to trim the fender tabs. No big deal though, took 30 seconds with a dremel. With 255's you'll be fine I think.

In front, with 8.5" wheels, there's plenty of room at the fender. I could use a 5mm spacer to get perfectly flush.

Someone who's run the 9.5's in front will have to comment, but from what I've read, as long as you have coilovers you'll be OK.

do you have the diy which part of the fender tabs have to be trimmed?

Thanks
I noticed I had rubbing on 255/35 only when I'm trying to go through uneven road with a steep slope. my rear and my side rub. it depend on which side I'm travelling. It seems that my springs are not hard enough, so my suspension travels too much.

Thanks

hanabie 12-11-2013 01:29 PM

@OP, it really depends on your road condition. I'm on ST Coils, 255/35 all around 18x9.5 +38 (7mm away from urs)

I don't think you have the chance to rub your perch. I have about 2 inches clearance from the front struts. You will only worry about your fender tabs when you lower further than 1.2".

I'm on 1.6-1.7 lowered.

BlaineWasHere 12-11-2013 01:35 PM

It should work, but you might need a 3-5mm spacer in the front so you don't rub on any end links at full lock.

I ran 17x9 et45 with 255/40/17 with KWs before I had camber plates which is pretty similar and I rubbed the wheel on the sway bar end link (strano parts FSB). But the tires rubbed on nothing though.

Now I have camber plates, adjustable sway bar end links and 5mm spacers to get the wheels out a touch.

Anomie 12-11-2013 02:36 PM

Any idea what camber you plan on running? Most setups I've read about with 18x9.5 square and 255/35/18's end up with around -2 camber all around to make it work.

Which would most likely require the OEM camber bolt up front like you said and some lower control arms in the rear (or some whiteline camber correcting bushings but I've read LCA's are much easier to correct camber with).

Figo 12-11-2013 02:47 PM

+45 is not an aggressive offset. why not try smaller offset or run spacers?

djdnz 12-11-2013 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlaineWasHere (Post 1383427)
It should work, but you might need a 3-5mm spacer in the front so you don't rub on any end links at full lock.

I ran 17x9 et45 with 255/40/17 with KWs before I had camber plates which is pretty similar and I rubbed the wheel on the sway bar end link (strano parts FSB). But the tires rubbed on nothing though.

Now I have camber plates, adjustable sway bar end links and 5mm spacers to get the wheels out a touch.

Not so much a problem with 18" wheels though, OP is looking at 18's.

OP you will be fine, stop worrying so much :P

If you want even more proof, look for the setups that have Enkei Raijins in the front. They are 9.5" +45 and they fit with 255.

BlaineWasHere 12-11-2013 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by djdnz (Post 1383605)
Not so much a problem with 18" wheels though, OP is looking at 18's.

OP you will be fine, stop worrying so much :P

If you want even more proof, look for the setups that have Enkei Raijins in the front. They are 9.5" +45 and they fit with 255.

LOL, I didn't even think that the larger wheels would have more clearance in that way! I have yet to run an 18" set-up on my car!

But I agree with this guy, the OP will be fine. If he has any rubbing issues they will be very minor.

hanabie 12-11-2013 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlaineWasHere (Post 1383785)
LOL, I didn't even think that the larger wheels would have more clearance in that way! I have yet to run an 18" set-up on my car!

But I agree with this guy, the OP will be fine. If he has any rubbing issues they will be very minor.

so r u saying minor rubbing was fine?
what kind of rubbing issues?

I rubbed my fender taps when I'm on incline/decline surfaces :mad0260:

denkigrve 12-11-2013 10:08 PM

OP you should be fine. I'm running around -2 degrees all around on 18x.9.5 +40. Tires are 255, 35, 18.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlaineWasHere (Post 1383785)
LOL, I didn't even think that the larger wheels would have more clearance in that way! I have yet to run an 18" set-up on my car!

But I agree with this guy, the OP will be fine. If he has any rubbing issues they will be very minor.

Wanna try my wheels on now that I'm running 18x9.5 +40?

switchlanez 12-11-2013 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anomie (Post 1383566)
Any idea what camber you plan on running? Most setups I've read about with 18x9.5 square and 255/35/18's end up with around -2 camber all around to make it work.

Which would most likely require the OEM camber bolt up front like you said and some lower control arms in the rear (or some whiteline camber correcting bushings but I've read LCA's are much easier to correct camber with).

Hmm, I can get -2 front camber since my coils will be slotted w/ OEM camber bolt and I believe the rear comes out to -2 natural camber if dropped around 1.25" (as I currently have with my Sportlines). I'm not that worried about the rear nor the front outer clearance (I calculated my current setup with XXR 8.75 wide +35 wheels face pokes 0.35mm further than this desired setup will). Just concerned about front inner clearance. I'm selecting a narrower tire (Hankook V12) and am pretty confident I will have no rubbing.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Figo (Post 1383603)
+45 is not an aggressive offset. why not try smaller offset or run spacers?

The wheels I really want only come in +45 and I'd like to get away with not running spacers.

switchlanez 12-11-2013 11:52 PM

So I've decided on Hankook Ventus V12 tires which have a 10.2" sectional width and 8.7" tread width, narrower than most other tires in its class as well as lighter at 23 lbs. Because of its unusual narrowness, I'm so confident it'll work that I'm now toying with the idea of V12 265/35R18 tires and no fender work. Anyone try anything like that?


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