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Kiske 11-23-2013 01:47 AM

Traction Control Freakout.
 
Had this happen to day, not sure if anyone else has had the problem.

Turned traction control/all off (3 seconds.) Pulled out on a double wide empty road making a left turn intentionally kicking the rear end out. Mid-way through I had the tracing control continuiously flashing (as if it was never turned off and you spun the wheels.) The result was that slight choke (for lack of better description) of the throttle or whatever it does which resulted in a sweet 180* spinout -_-.

Soon as I see the end come around I clutch in and catch it. TC still flashing even though I've come to a complete stop. I put it into 1st and proceed to leave as I already feel that I've made an ass out of myself. :bonk: So I let out the clutch and but, no movement. Car revs like it is in neutral. I shift into 2nd then back to 1st and try again. Again, tach is revving, crickets chirping and the lost traction light is still flashing with the "TC off light" and the one below it still lit up.

So I hit the push start and then restart the car. All seems to work well after the restart, didn't mess TC with the settings after restarting and drove off.

Has anyone had something similar to this happen. Just moments before I did see my low tire pressure lights come on (Temp is dropping.) Maybe a mixed signal cause the car to flip out.

humfrz 11-23-2013 02:03 AM

Hard telling ...... but I wouldn't worry about it unless it does it again....sometimes they are just "touchy"......;)

humfrz

Kodename47 11-23-2013 06:04 AM

Auto I presume?

Muskokan 11-23-2013 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodename47 (Post 1348496)
Auto I presume?

Words like clutch, and 1st... ;)

Kodename47 11-23-2013 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Muskokan (Post 1348507)
Words like clutch, and 1st... ;)

Oops. Didn't see that. Just a bit surprised you could physically put the car in gear and get nothing unless you'd done something to the clutch/drivetrain but that wouldn't explain it going after a restart.

Muskokan 11-23-2013 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodename47 (Post 1348518)
Oops. Didn't see that. Just a bit surprised you could physically put the car in gear and get nothing unless you'd done something to the clutch/drivetrain but that wouldn't explain it going after a restart.


it is odd, like the last guy said it was probably just a finicky spell with the traction control, i forgot to turn it off once while drifting in gravel and it wouldnt let me apply throttle for a good 20 seconds, then all of a suddon just worked. normally it will only cut throttle for 1-2.

mashal 11-23-2013 02:23 PM

3 seconds doesn't turn it off, you have to hold it down for 10 seconds

Guff 11-23-2013 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mashal (Post 1348817)
3 seconds doesn't turn it off, you have to hold it down for 10 seconds

Nope, it's like 3-5 seconds.

I find it incredibly unusual that you put the car in gear and it didn't move. That technically should be impossible, unless somehow, your stability control used the ABS and put the brakes on completely. Did you feel the car squat when you tried to go?

Kodename47 11-23-2013 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Guff (Post 1348822)
That technically should be impossible, unless somehow, your stability control used the ABS and put the brakes on completely. Did you feel the car squat when you tried to go?

I agree, but he said:

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Originally Posted by kiske
Car revs like it is in neutral. I shift into 2nd then back to 1st and try again. Again, tach is revving, crickets chirping and the lost traction light is still flashing

The car wouldn't rev if the car was in gear and brakes fully applied unless the clutch was slipping, in which case you'd smell burning clutch.

My only other ideas are clutch had overheated and not grabbing, or simply that the gears were not put fully home and as such not actually in gear. There are no other physical options I can see.

Ralph Spoilsport 11-23-2013 03:27 PM

:popcorn:

Rampage 11-23-2013 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiske (Post 1348283)
I already feel that I've made an ass out of myself.

The car was just giving everyone a chance to see you!

Rayme 11-23-2013 06:59 PM

I noticed when the traction is off (3 sec. trac button) it will still kick in when the car starts to jumps up and down, like if you try to drift the rear on a bumpy road, if it's a flat road, it rarely shows up. I drove all winter in the snow with the traction control off and it never kicks in as it's always smooth drifts.

Basicly when the car sees vertical G's it seems to step in anyway.

MmmHamSandwich 11-23-2013 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rayme (Post 1349123)
I noticed when the traction is off (3 sec. trac button) it will still kick in when the car starts to jumps up and down, like if you try to drift the rear on a bumpy road, if it's a flat road, it rarely shows up. I drove all winter in the snow with the traction control off and it never kicks in as it's always smooth drifts.

Basicly when the car sees vertical G's it seems to step in anyway.

If traction gets really light on one wheel it seems to do this. I've heard some people claim it is an e-dif function. There is a sharp uphill turn leaving my street so I end up doing this daily it seems.

At any rate if you pedal dance it truly turns everything off, but that requires the car to already be warm, and it is a pain in the ass to do in traffic. Wish the process was easier.

Rayme 11-23-2013 07:16 PM

I'm sure anyone who needs to have everything off would be much better off making a cut-off switch to one or more of the abs brake sensors/any other critical sensor to the VSC, it would defenitly turn everything off. However I don't know if the computer would go back to normal upon restart.


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