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TIE Pilot 10-18-2013 08:03 AM

1st gear + 0 Acceleration: Will not stall
 
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Do a little experiment and the car will not stall: Standing still, put 1st gear and gently release the clutch, don’t step on the gas, your car will start rolling. (Default ~700 RPM will not let engine stall)

Also if you are driving slowly, you can shift down from 2nd to 1st and after releasing the clutch do not step on any of pedals. The car will continue in a slow roll and again not stalling.

Anthony 10-18-2013 08:07 AM

So you're talking about taking off from a dead stop without using the throttle?

Muskokan 10-18-2013 08:12 AM

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TIE Pilot 10-18-2013 08:13 AM

yes sir.

Anthony 10-18-2013 08:15 AM

Have you ever found a car that couldn't do this?

TIE Pilot 10-18-2013 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 1277667)
Have you ever found a car that couldn't do this?

Well last time i drove a manual was 1997 and a pickup truck.... so that is that. Sorry for sharing then. lol.

Anthony 10-18-2013 08:19 AM

Yeah, I'm pretty sure all cars can do this. That's why I wasn't sure if I was reading it correctly or not. You could probably even do this in 3rd gear if you babied it enough. And you could probably take off in 6th gear with some gas. Not recommended, though.

FR-S Matt 10-18-2013 08:54 AM

Try holding the brake in and test your theory.

Foobar 10-18-2013 09:17 AM

Every manual I've ever driven was able to get off to a rolling start with the clutch eased in from a standstill without applying any gas. On the other hand, I've stalled every one of these cars inadvertently by releasing the clutch too fast or if I didn't apply enough gas while starting on an incline.

I've often used this when teaching someone to drive stick - forget the gas at first and learn where the clutch contact point is, then learn how much you have to ease it out to keep the car going forward.

FR-S Matt 10-18-2013 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Foobar (Post 1277709)
Every manual I've ever driven was able to get off to a rolling start with the clutch eased in from a standstill without applying any gas. On the other hand, I've stalled every one of these cars inadvertently by releasing the clutch too fast or if I didn't apply enough gas while starting on an incline.

I've often used this when teaching someone to drive stick - forget the gas at first and learn where the clutch contact point is, then learn how much you have to ease it out to keep the car going forward.

The best part is when you're distracted and you forget it's still in gear and you just let the clutch out and stall it in front of people. "Oops" is all I got. I did it in a drive through in my car once. Just played it off like it never happened.

nalc 10-18-2013 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Foobar (Post 1277709)
I've often used this when teaching someone to drive stick - forget the gas at first and learn where the clutch contact point is, then learn how much you have to ease it out to keep the car going forward.

Yup, that's the best way to go. Otherwise they never learn where the clutch bites, and just rev it to 3k while letting the clutch out. Once you learn where it bites, you can just give the throttle a little blip there to speed up the process, with less wear and tear.

sato 10-18-2013 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by FR-S Matt (Post 1277694)
Try holding the brake in and test your theory.

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Mikem53 10-18-2013 09:51 AM

Why is that an experiment? I do this almost all the time..
I use little to no gas when starting out.. Used to driving big
V8's.. Works for this tiny motor too... But takes some conscious effort
To do it smoothly.. Be one with the machine..

SloS14 10-18-2013 10:29 AM

This is like the Fox News of threads.


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