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No Issue/Noise on BRZ European Models?
I ask myself the reason to why, here in Europe, we haven't some issues/troubles you get (USA or CAN) related to misfire, idle, injectors leak and so on...?
I know that ECU software isn't the same and here we have only 98 or 100 Octane Gas (in some country 95 basic). All cars are Euro 5 compliants (almost similar to California 2016 rules). Mostly of our BRZ are manual (automatic gear isn't loved by europeans) My BRZ with 4.000,00 kms runs very well and none in Italy i.g. - OK here we have only #23 BRZ and #110 GT86 - claimed for issues or trouble related to engine. So I assume that USDM and European models aren't the same! Even if anyone working by/for Subaru may explain this? |
Huh?
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40951 Btw manaul drivers are dropping every year in major European countires, you guys are tunrning into us. |
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We don't love Abarth500 with auto,too....MTs are more speeder. No guys in Italian forum claimed for this kind of issue...but we have only 98 and 100 octane all people here use 100 Octane (Tamoil or V-Power), for us is a MUST. Some circuit sell 102 Octane fit for tracks. These are our specs in Italy for BRZ (ONLY MT) http://www.subaru.it/modelli/brz/13brz_spec.html |
Tell me more about this automatic STI... :D
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You find AT only near higher market segment, thus A5, A7, M3, M5, CLA and so on. AT isn't in the italian car culture for common cars with the exception of Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maserati, Porsche, BMW...but their AT aren't the VW gear or Subaru or Chrysler gear... The example is that the AT BRZ is not commercialized in Italy.....if you want AT you must buy a GT86 (some of the AT GT86 are unsold now). It's a market not so easy the italian one. |
We rate our octane differently than you do, your 100 octane is equivalant to our 94 octane (Eni Blu Super 100)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_...en_RON_and_AKI The European tune produces less power than what we have (200 bhp vs 197 bhp) but that's just an emissions thing, everything else is mechanically identical (at least where it counts) so I'm not sure what the point is. I would assume that there are "more" issues here because there are more cars here, almost 30k sold here so far. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...2&postcount=49 |
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here we have (we have only MT): Potenza Max. (DIN)(kW(PS)/rpm) 147 (200)/@7000 Coppia Max. (DIN)(Nm(kgfm)/rpm) 205 (20,9)/@6400-6600 |
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It's purely a numbers thing, there are many more 86's on our continent than yours. Best I can tell Fuji is aiming to produce 100,000 per year, that's 8,333 per month. We're getting a steady supply of about 2,500 per month so 1/3 86's sold end up on this continent with the rest distributed across the world. Factor in the language barrier and I don't think you need to look much further. There are plenty of owners in your continent who will never bother posting here (even though they may read here), you're on a bit of a goose chase in my opinion. |
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So, before my BRZ, I had a 500 Abarth and no issues or trouble here in Europe since 2008 and in USA (now) I believe the same situation. If the cars are the same , maybe electronics may differ between the two market version. For me your forum and contributions of all you is a "wikipedia" of useful infos! |
Even the Abarth with "no issues" has issues:
http://www.fiat500usaforum.com/forum...s-and-Concerns Looks like oil consumption and leaks are rather prevalent, the only "common" issue on the 86 is the check engine light/cam sensor issue which has mostly been quelled as of a few months ago. Don't worry about it until it starts doing weird things. Enjoy the car and don't let people you scare you away from enjoying it. |
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the turbo in USA is a Garrett 1446 (fits only on Alfa Romeo Mito, Grande Punto Abarth SS and some other in Italy and AT), but engine is the newest MultiAir that we don't have on 500A and don't love...(it's impossible to tune well and reaching higher power....90% of chance to break). This engine for 500 Abarth and Alfa Romeo Mito isn't a race/sport engine...very trouble for all tuners...the better is the same engine but not Multiair, the previous "T-jet 1.4 Turbo" can reach 215 HP with no trouble...mine sold 2 months ago with 65k Kms was a swiss jewel.... |
All of the issues exist in Europe too. Don't let this nonsense start even more hysteria in North America.
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I have no idea what is going on in this thread...
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