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torqdork 08-23-2013 07:05 PM

Are Carbotech XP10/XP8 pads position sensitive?
 
While installing the XP10/XP8 Fr/Rr I recall a letter, possibly an "I" stamped on some pads, but no directional arrows or other markings. Does it matter how they're installed forward/backward/inner/outer?

Possibly related to this, after proper bedding in at the local airport the ABS has come alive under hard braking with Potenza RE-11A's. I'm wondering if pad placement has anything to do with it, or is it due to higher performance pads generating more clamping force or something expected with XP series modulation? The ABS was nowhere near as active with OEM pads.

TIA...

CSG Mike 08-23-2013 07:34 PM

No, they're not.

You're getting more ABS action because you're braking harder, but with staggered compounds. The same pedal pressure will generate substantially more pedal pressure (nearly double the friction), and the EBD is trying to compensate for the difference in braking at the front and rear axles.

Effectively, you can step on the brake less to get the same braking force, so you should have a nice big range for modulation.

OrbitalEllipses 08-23-2013 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 1162747)
Effectively, you can step on the brake less to get the same braking force, so you should have a nice big range for modulation.

Do you recommend this one:
http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn....-MODZERO-2.jpg


Or this one?
http://static.musiciansfriend.com/de...e_501645_V.jpg

torqdork 08-23-2013 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 1162747)
No, they're not.

You're getting more ABS action because you're braking harder, but with staggered compounds. The same pedal pressure will generate substantially more pedal pressure (nearly double the friction), and the EBD is trying to compensate for the difference in braking at the front and rear axles.

Effectively, you can step on the brake less to get the same braking force, so you should have a nice big range for modulation.

Thanks Mike, makes sense since it's the fronts that are trying to lock with the same pedal pressure as OEM pads.

TouchMyHonda 08-23-2013 09:31 PM

I'm running xp8's front and rear and my abs is for sure more lively.... Especially since I am on stock tires still hahah. Totally normal my friend.

Acree 08-23-2013 11:52 PM

So why the staggered compounds?


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