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Djen 08-23-2013 03:12 AM

Boost creep
 
greeting.. boost rise when set to10psi the problem now is boost hold all the way. when RPM Climb around 5000+all the way redline boost creeps higher and higher around 12-13. anything should be warry about it? i just cant keep goin seeing creep like that for safety to engine i pull my foot right the way!!:confused0068:

solutions for my issues i'll be much pleased..http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2636cbb5.jpg

sw20kosh 08-23-2013 03:36 AM

What turbo kit do you have?

A little bit of creep should be tolerable as long as your data logs look clean of knock.

Usually this happens when your wastegate is insufficient at venting the amount of exhaust gas you are throwing at the turbo.

Also, if you have one, check your boost controller and all the lines that go to and from your boost controller and wastegate for leaks.

Djen 08-23-2013 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sw20kosh (Post 1161067)
What turbo kit do you have?

A little bit of creep should be tolerable as long as your data logs look clean of knock.

Usually this happens when your wastegate is insufficient at venting the amount of exhaust gas you are throwing at the turbo.

Also, if you have one, check your boost controller and all the lines that go to and from your boost controller and wastegate for leaks.

FBM kit and i don't think there is leak. and yes the wasetgate the upper banjo keept open. don't you think I need stiffer wasgate pressure spring? because installed a 6-7psi spring in ther. and yes at WOT the data looks clean I have some knock while crusing on low throttle open..

Dipstik-sportech 08-23-2013 03:48 AM

What kind of boost controller are u running? Is the wastegate recirculated or open to atmosphere?

Djen 08-23-2013 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech (Post 1161078)
What kind of boost controller are u running? Is the wastegate recirculated or open to atmosphere?

FBM manual controller and yes its recirculated back to the EX.

Djen 08-23-2013 03:52 AM

im using regualer vacuum tees to connect hoses that used for water/air metal one should effect? and plastic zip ties

sw20kosh 08-23-2013 12:54 PM

If you know what you are doing, disconnect the boost controller and go back to just using the wastegate. This will diagnose the problem as:

1. Boost controller malfunction
Or
2. Wastegate malfunction or leak in the boost refrence hoses

Djen 08-23-2013 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sw20kosh (Post 1161727)
If you know what you are doing, disconnect the boost controller and go back to just using the wastegate. This will diagnose the problem as:

1. Boost controller malfunction
Or
2. Wastegate malfunction or leak in the boost refrence hoses

hmm this kinda take times but if I disconnect the boost controller and put it directly how can I boost for 10psi? my wastgate pressure spring only 7psi I think im goin to disconnect the boost controller and re connect them agine with hoses goin to wasgate and see if this dose change

Toma 08-23-2013 01:06 PM

What style of Vaccuum line? Cheap "silicone" rubber tends to swell and "drop" pressure. But not usually till higher boost.

Keep the Vaccum lines as short as possible. Avoid "T's" that reduce inside diameter or are a restriction.

I usually plumb the turbo compressor housing direct to wastegate.

If it still does it....

Then either the wastegate has insufficient flow, or if the turbine section is restrictive, the timing could be too low (creates excess heat energy, has greater affect on small housings).

But I like boost creep, 2-3 pounds is very nice ;)

Djen 08-23-2013 01:07 PM

the vacuum start from the intake Manifold Tees not clamped or zip tie just do you think this the cuses leaks? on 10psi?

Djen 08-23-2013 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toma (Post 1161761)
What style of Vaccuum line? Cheap "silicone" rubber tends to swell and "drop" pressure. But not usually till higher boost.

Keep the Vaccum lines as short as possible. Avoid "T's" that reduce inside diameter or are a restriction.

I usually plumb the turbo compressor housing direct to wastegate.

If it still does it....

Then either the wastegate has insufficient flow, or if the turbine section is restrictive, the timing could be too low (creates excess heat energy, has greater affect on small housings).

But I like boost creep, 2-3 pounds is very nice ;)

the mechanic used Brass Tees

Djen 08-23-2013 01:11 PM

what can I do im using two of T brass tees that's not good at all or?

King Tut 08-23-2013 01:13 PM

I have never ever seen boost creep on my FBM kit, only boost loss in the upper RPM range. I would say there might be an exhaust leak at your wastegate.

Djen 08-23-2013 01:15 PM

hmm ill snap shot some and post the way im connecting the tees alright


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