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jaime3 07-22-2013 03:58 AM

Downshifting
 
Does anyone ever downshift from 6th to 5th and feel a discomfort in doing so? It feels as if i really have to downshift to 5th with a little extra force than usual. Is this a problem?

FRSfan111 07-22-2013 04:05 AM

4-5th and 5th-4th has always been a B. sice day one :/ idk if its just me though.

bkblitzed 07-22-2013 04:10 AM

na not for me. Shifting from 5th to 6th though isn't as smooth as i would like. Always remember though, shift smooth, and dont force it.

frsvr4 07-22-2013 11:42 AM

Have you tried double-clutching and rev matching? It shouldn't be necessary, but it's good practice to reduce synchro wear. When you do it right, the synchronizer doesn't have to do any work.

leon78 07-22-2013 11:49 AM

Just gunna leave this here....

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7bt1E30y0A"]GRANNY SHIFTING NOT DOUBLE CLUTCHING LIKE YOU SHOULD! - YouTube[/ame]

daiheadjai 07-22-2013 01:30 PM

Revmatch and it should be smooth and easy.
In fact, no downshifts should be done without revmatching (unless if you are nearing a stop and the speeds are low enough)

marky 07-22-2013 02:06 PM

You must rev match grasshopper :bow:

topazsparrow 07-22-2013 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daiheadjai (Post 1087862)
Revmatch and it should be smooth and easy.
In fact, no downshifts should be done without revmatching (unless if you are nearing a stop and the speeds are low enough)


Exactly. if you can't drive without using the clutch, you're doing it wrong.

lazyluka 07-22-2013 04:40 PM

My 6th to 5th down shifts always crunch at speeds around and above 100km/h (60mph). Sometimes it's even impossible to preform the shift.

I rev match normally, even tried double clutching and every other trick in the book.

Taking it in to Toyota and going to see what they say.

BTW car is a 2013 and all other gears work fine.

CAMBAM_6 07-22-2013 05:13 PM

I dont rev match unless im in high RPM's...been driving stick for 10+ yrs on multiple platforms never had problems with early tranny wear...I practice for fun sometimes but normaly i dont do it, im usually always under 4k..................sounds like you may have a seperate issue, and i recommend getting a weighted shift knob also, theres not much effort for me shifting all the way up or down

d4wt 07-22-2013 05:14 PM

i came in here to say everything that has already been said.... so "hi"

thill 07-22-2013 05:31 PM

My last car was a Hyundai Genesis Coupe.. Every gear (including downshifting from 6-5 and 5-4 is so much smoother. This is not the smoothest shifter I have owned, but pretty close.

wheelhaus 07-22-2013 06:18 PM

What you're probably feeling is the gearing difference between 5th and 6th. 6th being a cruising gear, and 5th being the end of the "usable" performance gears, there's a bigger gap. In order for the synchros to engage 5th, they have to speed up the input shaft moreso than if you were going 5th-4th at the same RPM. So, the resistance, hesitation, bump, whatever you want to call it that you feel in the shift lever, is just the synchros doing their job. The only true way to eliminate the hesitation is to double clutch downshift as mentioned above.

Aside from that, it's completely normal.

bodayguy 07-22-2013 06:30 PM

On the highway, I don't see much difference from 5th or 6th. Same torque pretty much. The gearing in this car is a little strange. When cornering at 30 mph or so, seems to me downshifting to 2nd is not too helpful either.


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