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Xero-Limit 07-09-2013 02:27 PM

Innovate SC Install, Testing & Tuning
 
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The kits showed up, and after catching up we went to put one in in the after hours. Instructions are great, but there's a few little tidbits to keep in mind. Here's the saga in pictures.

Some notes:

Pry the top "lid" as pictured. This keeps the tabs from bending in the back.

The picture in the manual is not very clear about which hose gets the extension hose. The one going to the intake is the one that gets the one with the barb. The other one routes back to the SC.

Make sure the fuel hoses and lines are under the blower before you bolt it down. We did have to file the alternator for about 30 seconds to remove .5mm of material. So have a file. DO NOT attempt to skip this if needed.

Check for fuel leaks IMMEDIATELY. Though the o-rings at the top of the injectors usually can be re-used, despite taking all the precautions and being gentle we had a nice spray. Car has 11k on it. $12 each from the dealer, or you can chance it with a generic. Use assembly lube or something similar.

The hood padding as others have said can stay on. It will get the "love bite" from the SC pulley so we left it on.

Tuning wise it took a couple of hours but we have a solid tune now. Going to put it on the dyno this afternoon and see where are are at. I'm pretty sure we'll top 220 on pump gas and stock header/exhaust, but it is hot and muggy out today. Going to bring some E85 jugs to test with if we have time!

Dezoris 07-09-2013 02:36 PM

Did you pull your DI Injectors while in there?

Xero-Limit 07-09-2013 02:40 PM

Nope, haven't had the need to but it is simple enough if needed. Honestly this has to be one of the easiest installs on an aftermarket FI system I've done on an import. The hardest part is mounting the SC (have a helper) and double checking hose routing. Now that we got that figured out it should be a one day job.

sw20kosh 07-09-2013 02:43 PM

For those installing (and I don't know how important this fitting is) but this guy has come loose after driving the car for a month. Might want to check that it is tight before installing the sc. You cannot tighten it while it is on the car because it cannot rotate fully (it is blocked by manifold casting and other fittings etc).

Is it important that this thing is tightly sealed? It is screwed in there but it moves left to right semi-freely as if it needed 1/2 to 1 more turn. It is pre-sc so it sees vacuum only. Is it maybe supposed to swivel?

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...23851946_n.jpg

Dezoris 07-09-2013 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moto-mike (Post 1055473)
Nope, haven't had the need to but it is simple enough if needed. Honestly this has to be one of the easiest installs on an aftermarket FI system I've done on an import. The hardest part is mounting the SC (have a helper) and double checking hose routing. Now that we got that figured out it should be a one day job.

Compared to the Vortech yeah it's a cake walk, but it's not intercooled so that reduces half the install drama.

I have asked for this multiple times but can you post up some of your log info, like IAT, oil temps, coolant temps, ambient temps from your dynos?

One of the main reasons I am waiting to take this on as a project is no one is being forthcoming about this.

With no intercooler and that blower generating heat on the intake manifold, how much temp is it actually generating with the intake charge?

King Tut 07-09-2013 02:49 PM

Looks like a vacuum fitting. I definitely would not want it moving around and possibly allowing a vacuum leak that would be very hard to track down.

sw20kosh 07-09-2013 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezoris (Post 1055505)
Compared to the Vortech yeah it's a cake walk, but it's not intercooled so that reduces half the install drama.

I have asked for this multiple times but can you post up some of your log info, like IAT, oil temps, coolant temps, ambient temps from your dynos?

One of the main reasons I am waiting to take this on as a project is no one is being forthcoming about this.

With no intercooler and that blower generating heat on the intake manifold, how much temp is it actually generating with the intake charge?

This wont answer your question completely but the innovate car running stg 1 registered something like a 133 IAT post-blower on a 100 deg track day. I'll try to find the post.

swift996 07-09-2013 02:52 PM

Thanks for the tips. I'm most worried about figuring out the hose routing.

sw20kosh 07-09-2013 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 1055516)
Looks like a vacuum fitting. I definitely would not want it moving around and possibly allowing a vacuum leak that would be very hard to track down.

Yes it is vacuum. Looks like it connects to the EVAP purge solenoid.

Xero-Limit 07-09-2013 02:57 PM

nothing to worry about. It vacuum as stated above and won't cause a big enough leak to affect tuning if it is just a hair loose.

Xero-Limit 07-09-2013 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swift996 (Post 1055527)
Thanks for the tips. I'm most worried about figuring out the hose routing.

Not nearly as bad as you think initially. The extensions they provide are awesome. I'll take some high def pictures later on of the final setup after the dyno.

Dezoris 07-09-2013 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sw20kosh (Post 1055520)
This wont answer your question completely but the innovate car running stg 1 registered something like a 133 IAT post-blower on a 100 deg track day. I'll try to find the post.

I would appreciate it. This is pretty important info to have and would take 5 minutes to post up.
@moto-mike do you have an issue doing this?

sw20kosh 07-09-2013 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezoris (Post 1055588)
I would appreciate it. This is pretty important info to have and would take 5 minutes to post up.
@moto-mike do you have an issue doing this?

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=251

Xero-Limit 07-09-2013 05:08 PM

211 whp on pump in 90 deg weather...


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