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BlackyRose 07-05-2013 05:11 PM

Drop in, silicone tube, exhaust, NO tune...problems?
 
Anyone have problems with the following mods and no tune, just stock ecu.

Drop in filter
Silicone intake tube
Exhaust

Don't care about responses telling me to search or how I need a tune. just wanted a quick poll if anyone had problems with these mods on a stock ecu. I'm sure no one has, but curious nonetheless and it would take hours to search through hundreds if pages of different breather mod posts

jm1681 07-05-2013 05:35 PM

Friend has all three on his BRZ, no tune no problems.

Probably more WITH a tune, but I think you'll be totally fine bolting on and going for it :)

BlackyRose 07-05-2013 06:21 PM

Thanks. I am 100% sure its fine, in fact Ive read on here that many people have a lot of breather mods without a tune. I was attempting to lure that 1 guy that has a problem (if he exists) and then order my parts according to his advice of what to stay away from

jflogerzi 07-05-2013 06:39 PM

You will be fine because the MAF is still in the OEM location. You might run a bit richer due to more airflow, but those 3 should be 100% fine without a tune. Might eek a bit more with a tune. :)

Nightbringer 07-05-2013 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jflogerzi (Post 1047426)
You will be fine because the MAF is still in the OEM location. You might run a bit richer due to more airflow, but those 3 should be 100% fine without a tune.

Exactly. Running these mods without a tune as well; no issues. Would recommend resetting the ECU though after installation.

MTCRX 07-05-2013 07:37 PM

I have Perrin drop in Filter and intake tube with TRD exhaust. Car runs much better than stock and I have had no problems. I did unplug the battery for about 10-15 minutes to reset the computer when I added the parts. So far all is well.

Blood 07-05-2013 07:53 PM

Another one here with those three mods and no tune.

I have:
Perrin inlet hose
Perrin drop-in filter
Perrin 2.5" catback exhaust

Been running with those mods for 5k miles and no issues.

wbradley 07-05-2013 07:58 PM

Same here no issues. Wish I could try a tune to see the difference.

BlackyRose 07-05-2013 08:02 PM

Are all of you guys above ^^ pretty satisfied with just the reset ECU and those mods?

Nightbringer 07-05-2013 08:06 PM

From dynos and what everyone says, a tune makes a night and day difference. However, I've put 7000 miles on with intake/exhaust and no tune and am very satisfied with the results. Marginal power gains in the grand scheme of things, but there've been no issues/problems, and gas mileage has only gotten better.

Fast_Freddy 07-06-2013 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jflogerzi (Post 1047426)
You will be fine because the MAF is still in the OEM location. You might run a bit richer due to more airflow, but those 3 should be 100% fine without a tune. Might eek a bit more with a tune. :)

It won't run richer. The MAS will see the extra airflow, tell the ECU and the ECU will add the correct amount of extra fuel. Then the wide-band O2 sensor (Toyota calls it an "AFR sensor") will monitor the actual AFR and the ECU will fine-tune the fuel trims to achieve the target AFR every time. All long term fuel trims also contribute to open loop table corrections so that the open loop AFR should also remain unchanged.

There are a lot of good reasons to get a tune but the only engine mod that actually NEEDS a tune is forced induction.

LeeMaster 07-06-2013 04:59 AM

Exhaust... full exhaust or catback?

BlackyRose 07-06-2013 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy (Post 1048355)
It won't run richer. The MAS will see the extra airflow, tell the ECU and the ECU will add the correct amount of extra fuel. Then the wide-band O2 sensor (Toyota calls it an "AFR sensor") will monitor the actual AFR and the ECU will fine-tune the fuel trims to achieve the target AFR every time. All long term fuel trims also contribute to open loop table corrections so that the open loop AFR should also remain unchanged.

There are a lot of good reasons to get a tune but the only engine mod that actually NEEDS a tune is forced induction.

That's one hell of an answer. Nice to see a post that stays on topic!! Thanks

BlackyRose 07-06-2013 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeeMaster (Post 1048449)
Exhaust... full exhaust or catback?

Probably zeta or something else in that price range. Probably leave the stock front pipe just to keep my cost down.


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