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lbroskee 05-12-2013 08:25 PM

header bare, wrapped, or ceramic coated?
 
im ordering my headers soon and ceramic coating is a $150 option, but im not sure what the best route to go is.

do i order them bare?
do i order them bare then wrap them?
do i order them ceramic coated?

they are the FA20CLUB headers so they will be used with the full header kit down the line.


along with any other good info i can get on this, @lexusb3, what did you do for yours?

StormTrooper 05-12-2013 08:30 PM

If you have the cash i'd ceramic coat them...that's what i plan on doing. Helps under hood temps and keeps rust away longer.

Hawaiian 05-12-2013 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lbroskee (Post 929350)
im ordering my headers soon and ceramic coating is a $150 option, but im not sure what the best route to go is.

do i order them bare?
do i order them bare then wrap them?
do i order them ceramic coated?

they are the FA20CLUB headers so they will be used with the full header kit down the line.


along with any other good info i can get on this, @lexusb3, what did you do for yours?

Bare or Ceramic coated..

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=143

Some people have had oil/brake fluid leak on to wraps, and then catch on fire.

mrk1 05-12-2013 08:38 PM

i vote ceramic, however not all ceramic is the same. I had some sti parts done with jet hots basic level coating and it chipped with the slightest scrap during installation. It worked but I was pretty disappointed about the durability.

Swain Tech makes a white lightening coating and that stuff is thick and I've heard nothing but good things about it, just get over the fact that it only comes in white.

wparsons 05-12-2013 08:40 PM

Bare or ceramic, don't wrap them!

lbroskee 05-12-2013 08:40 PM

options are black and silver, but ill def be going black

lexusb3 05-12-2013 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lbroskee (Post 929350)
im ordering my headers soon and ceramic coating is a $150 option, but im not sure what the best route to go is.

do i order them bare?
do i order them bare then wrap them?
do i order them ceramic coated?

they are the FA20CLUB headers so they will be used with the full header kit down the line.


along with any other good info i can get on this, @lexusb3, what did you do for yours?

I wrapped mine ... I push my car hard and when i pull up to work I can touch it and its nice and warm IMO its working fine for me everyone will have somthing different to say but i dont have one problem:)

Calum 05-12-2013 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lbroskee (Post 929375)
options are black and silver, but ill def be going black

There's a joke in there somewhere, I'm sure of it.

Wraps are also famous for holding water and causing a header to rust faster then if left bare.

reeves 05-13-2013 02:56 AM

Got the bare option.. I like the cool looking goldish color it becomes after it's been used for the first time.

wparsons 05-13-2013 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calum (Post 929395)
Wraps are also famous for holding water and causing a header to rust faster then if left bare.

This. On a race car it's not such a big deal since it probably never stays wet, but on a street car it'll hold moisture and corrode the headers much faster.

mad_sb 05-16-2013 09:14 AM

These days there are hard drying silicone coatings you spray over the wrap after the intial drying... makes the wrap feel like a hard cast. These prevent (or significantly reduce) water absorption. I wrapped the whole exhaust (downpipe to muffler) on my evo viii, did the spray coating, never had any moisture or corrosion issues over the course of 4 or 5 years... then again, i am in georgia and we do not have salt related corrosion issues here so...

I will be wrapping and sealing mine, if nameless ever releases theirs that is :)

ft_sjo 05-16-2013 09:38 AM

I've seen wrapped manifolds catch fire with simple oil spills before and there's not much you can do to stop it as the oil is embedded in the wrap. You end up having to take it all off anyway.

xjohnx 05-16-2013 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ft_sjo (Post 938754)
I've seen wrapped manifolds catch fire with simple oil spills before and there's not much you can do to stop it as the oil is embedded in the wrap. You end up having to take it all off anyway.

I think that was the point of the silicon sealant that @mad_sb was referring to, it creates a barrier between the wrap itself and any fluid that may drip onto it.

mad_sb 05-16-2013 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xjohnx (Post 938839)
I think that was the point of the silicon sealant that @mad_sb was referring to, it creates a barrier between the wrap itself and any fluid that may drip onto it.

Yup, you do have to be carefull when working with oil etc around the wraps, but it's easy enough to cover the wrap when you changing oil etc.

I may put heat barrier on the oil pan and just wrap the section the turns up in front of the motor.... but I have plenty of time to change my mind a few times before nameless will be ready to ship. :bellyroll:


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