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slowbrz 05-11-2013 01:36 PM

Square vs staggered setup
 
I have three choices:
Square 17x8
Square 17x9
Staggered 17x8/17x9

Which setup should I go with? They will be TC105n and I will not be boosting my car

dori. 05-11-2013 02:00 PM

well what are you doing with the car?

daily?
show car?
spirited driving?
autocross?
circuit?

what kind of tires?

JoeBoxer 05-11-2013 02:05 PM

square 17x9 +35 has a little poke up front on stock suspension/mild drops, if you aren't boosting or lowering i'd say 17x8 square.

fatoni 05-11-2013 03:26 PM

17x9 is going to be the fastest in just about every circumstance.

slowbrz 05-11-2013 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dori. (Post 927047)
well what are you doing with the car?

daily?
show car?
spirited driving?
autocross?
circuit?

what kind of tires?

it will be mostly for daily driving but spirited driving on the weekend. But I also want it to look a bit aggressive.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer (Post 927050)
square 17x9 +35 has a little poke up front on stock suspension/mild drops, if you aren't boosting or lowering i'd say 17x8 square.

Im dropped on eibach prokits... 1" all around

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatoni (Post 927172)
17x9 is going to be the fastest in just about every circumstance.

I thought the car didnt output enough power to warrant 17x9. I can see the advantages for braking though

fatoni 05-11-2013 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slowbrz (Post 927271)
it will be mostly for daily driving but spirited driving on the weekend. But I also want it to look a bit aggressive.


Im dropped on eibach prokits... 1" all around


I thought the car didnt output enough power to warrant 17x9. I can see the advantages for braking though

i think thats a way of thinking from when tire compounds were they way that they are now. it takes more to heat up a wider tire but compounds now are so much better that its easier to be at its optimal temps.

then again, its just a guess based off of what happens on miatas. a 15x9 is faster than a 15x8 and thats with 100 hp on a car that is even more sensitive to unsprung weight.

Starscream15 05-11-2013 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slowbrz (Post 927271)
Im dropped on eibach prokits... 1" all around

17x9 +42 square with a 1" drop is delicious. Better than a Blumpkin, even.

kask2_6.0 05-11-2013 06:21 PM

All are good options and since you aren't doing time attack or something and trying to get that last .01 seconds. I went staggered because I like the fitment of the 17x9 +35 in the rear but pokes a little much for my taste up front. Not to mention really throws a lot of road debris on your door and rocker from the offset. So for me the 17x8 was a better option up front.

usptwins 05-11-2013 06:45 PM

staggered 17x8/9F and 17x9/10R or somewhere like that. Thats what i would go with. Good luck. Besides, the staggered look, looks a hell of a lot better on a sports car IMHO.

Kamran 05-11-2013 10:28 PM

I was originally toying with the idea of going staggered, but after reading about all the ECU interference and the ice mode, I decided against it! Why? Because staggered "tires" have different circumferences, and having different circumferences means that your ECU is detecting slight slipping between front and rear. So when you are skidding around, it just kicks in and trigger ECU control of the car that much earlier. Also traction control input won't be quite right.

For tracking the car, I went with 17x8, because I think 245 is too much and rubs Hp, so no need to go bigger than 8, but with 8 you can fit 225 or 235's.

My last track car with about 60 more Hp and about 400 pounds more weight was nicely happy on the track with 225's and the right suspension set up.

mrk1 05-11-2013 11:18 PM

I love square. My M3 had staggered from the factory, now run a 265 square setup and its amazing. Whenever the stock brz rubber wears out i will go to a 225 square.


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