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oofie 05-05-2013 10:36 PM

Track brake pads - front and rear?
 
Just got my Argento 86 and plan on bringing it to an hpde next month. I plan on replacing the brake pads with better ones. Will do a brake fluid flush as well. The pads will be used only on track and will be swapped out after each event. It will be my first time doing hpde's.

My question is, should I buy pads for both front and rear? Or can I get away with just replacing the fronts and using stock ones for the rears?

Also, any recommendations on what pads to use? I'm thinking something from hawk?

fishek 05-06-2013 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by oofie (Post 913161)
Just got my Argento 86 and plan on bringing it to an hpde next month. I plan on replacing the brake pads with better ones. Will do a brake fluid flush as well. The pads will be used only on track and will be swapped out after each event. It will be my first time doing hpde's.

My question is, should I buy pads for both front and rear? Or can I get away with just replacing the fronts and using stock ones for the rears?

Also, any recommendations on what pads to use? I'm thinking something from hawk?

Will you be on stock tires?

If yes, I recommend Ferodo DS2500. You can run it on both track and street.

oofie 05-06-2013 12:17 AM

Yeah, I'll stick with the stock tires for at least a few months. Still have to learn the car and how it behaves.

If I use ferodo for both track and street, is can I get away with just the front pads or just replace them both?


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m.wood0213 05-06-2013 01:13 AM

if your staying w/ stock tires theres tons of options and youll hear something different from everyone. good luck.

ImperiousRex 05-06-2013 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by oofie (Post 913386)
Yeah, I'll stick with the stock tires for at least a few months. Still have to learn the car and how it behaves.

If I use ferodo for both track and street, is can I get away with just the front pads or just replace them both?


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I also use Ferrodo DS2500's for the street and track and I've been very happy with them. I've been consistently placing 3rd in both the FT86 Cup and 86 Challenge events here in CA as well as daily driving the car using those pads. If you're a highly experienced HPDE driver and are looking for the extra couple seconds or tenths of a second to beat the folks ahead of you, then race pads may be in order but if you're still just learning, the DS2500's will be more than enough to start out with.

As for front and rears, I've been using the DS2500's all around. I've been told by faster folks that you want to use matching compounds on all 4 corners and from my own personal experience, the car feels very good with a full set of DS2500's.

86_ZN6 05-06-2013 02:05 AM

go check out WORKS brake pads

they are engineered for both the street use and the track

---> http://www.86-zn6.com/WORKS-Blue-Brake-Pads_p_65.html

tuckdaddy 05-06-2013 02:08 AM

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Still need to get these on the car but this is the setup ill be daily driving and having fun with!

m.wood0213 05-06-2013 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by tuckdaddy (Post 913596)
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Still need to get these on the car but this is the setup ill be daily driving and having fun with!

when do you plan on setting up? im interested in how that setup will work for DD.

tuckdaddy 05-06-2013 02:37 AM

Shooting for Wednesday! I'm not too sure how the race compounds for the front are going to be (street able or not) but the HPS's are a solid pad! Wanted a good setup for runs and eventually when I can figure out track days and autocross but still be a streetable setup. I'll be sure to fill you in on my impressions of them. I think from the research I've done and just having buddies who continue to buy these for their cars and swear by them they'll be a good setup.

oofie 05-06-2013 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by m.wood0213 (Post 913510)
if your staying w/ stock tires theres tons of options and youll hear something different from everyone. good luck.

Thanks! Yeah, I'll stick with stock for the meantime.

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Originally Posted by ImperiousRex (Post 913589)
I also use Ferrodo DS2500's for the street and track and I've been very happy with them. I've been consistently placing 3rd in both the FT86 Cup and 86 Challenge events here in CA as well as daily driving the car using those pads. If you're a highly experienced HPDE driver and are looking for the extra couple seconds or tenths of a second to beat the folks ahead of you, then race pads may be in order but if you're still just learning, the DS2500's will be more than enough to start out with.

As for front and rears, I've been using the DS2500's all around. I've been told by faster folks that you want to use matching compounds on all 4 corners and from my own personal experience, the car feels very good with a full set of DS2500's.

Great driving! :happy0180: I've been autocrossing and I'm decent at it, but it would be my first time doing HPDE's, so I would probably be ok with the Ferodo. Thanks for the input!

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Originally Posted by 86_ZN6 (Post 913594)
go check out WORKS brake pads

they are engineered for both the street use and the track

---> http://www.86-zn6.com/WORKS-Blue-Brake-Pads_p_65.html

Looks great! Will look into this.

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Originally Posted by tuckdaddy (Post 913596)
Attachment 36270

Still need to get these on the car but this is the setup ill be daily driving and having fun with!

Nice! :happy0180:

CSG Mike 05-06-2013 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 86_ZN6 (Post 913594)
go check out WORKS brake pads

they are engineered for both the street use and the track

---> http://www.86-zn6.com/WORKS-Blue-Brake-Pads_p_65.html

I hope you're not recommending this 950* F pad to people that are trying to track. You'll hit that temp doing a single 60-1 panic stop.

Track pads typically have a maximum operating temp of 1500-2000* F.

As always, you want to prep your car for the most extreme condition it will be subjected to, not what it will normally be subjected to. Martial artists train for years for that 2 minute (or less) bout. Our cars have 200hp, but how much time do you actually spend at redline WOT compared to the time you spend in the car?

CSG Mike 05-06-2013 02:51 PM

@oofie: check out this thread for feedback on different pads.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23680

oofie 05-06-2013 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 914543)
@oofie: check out this thread for feedback on different pads.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23680

Thanks Mike! So would you recommend having matching front and rear pads? :happy0180:

BRZ NA 05-06-2013 03:32 PM

I used work blue front and rear pads only with motul 600 last track day in infineon raceway ,it works not bad.through out the whole day,only one or two times felt brake fading,but all at the last round of the session. So I think with slotted front rotors should be good. Or may be additional air duct cooler for summer.


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