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eckoflyte 04-08-2013 03:54 AM

Extended studs with stock setup
 
Guys, planning on getting ARP extended studs for the front (Have a set of rays wheels which may need a 2-3mm spacer to clear the sprint kit).

If at some point in the future I wish to sell the car and return it to stock, will the OEM lug nuts and stock wheels fit over the extended studs?

RedLeader 04-08-2013 03:57 AM

Not likely. The OEM lugs are closed types, so they'll only thread on so far before bottoming out on the stud. with extended studs, that is not likely to be far enough to actually get the wheel tight.

eckoflyte 04-08-2013 05:24 AM

fair enough but without any actual measurements i suppose its just speculation. if someone can confirm that would be greatly appreciated.

EarlQHan 04-08-2013 05:26 AM

how much longer are the arp studs? oem studs are fairly cheap so you can always press out the arp ones and put in new oem ones.

eckoflyte 04-08-2013 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EarlQHan (Post 849261)
how much longer are the arp studs? oem studs are fairly cheap so you can always press out the arp ones and put in new oem ones.

It is approximately 1" longer than stock subaru studs for 02+ WRX/Sti according to a website I found. Overall length 3"

Reference: http://www.licmotorsports.com/produc...rxsti_100-7716
@RedLeader is probably right but would like confirmation.

Here is a picture for comparison.

http://www.itrexpo.com/users/dave/brz/stud2.jpg

EarlQHan 04-08-2013 05:41 AM

oem lug nuts would not fit, but i believe you can get oem length studs for about 1.50 each. if you sell the car and want to use the oem lug nuts, just replace the studs. otherwise get open ended lug nuts, i doubt any second owner would notice/care.

Fizz 04-08-2013 05:44 AM

I dont have any measurements either, but if you took a stock 86 and just removed a wheel nut, you'll see that the lenght of oem stud sticking out is pretty much the same as the depth of your oem nut. Now if you imagine the much longer ARP stud there, i'd say no way you're gonna fully tighten your factory wheel using the oem nut. Maybe if you can fit an appropriate sized hub-centric spacer behind the factory wheel it would work. Just my 2c.

Fizz 04-08-2013 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EarlQHan (Post 849267)
oem lug nuts would not fit, but i believe you can get oem length studs for about 1.50 each. if you sell the car and want to use the oem lug nuts, just replace the studs. otherwise get open ended lug nuts, i doubt any second owner would notice/care.

but you'd need to make sure you get flat faced open-ended nuts, not the concave faced aftermarket ones as these won't fit on the factory wheels.

eckoflyte 04-08-2013 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fizz (Post 849269)
I dont have any measurements either, but if you took a stock 86 and just removed a wheel nut, you'll see that the lenght of oem stud sticking out is pretty much the same as the depth of your oem nut. Now if you imagine the much longer ARP stud there, i'd say no way you're gonna fully tighten your factory wheel using the oem nut. Maybe if you can fit an appropriate sized hub-centric spacer behind the factory wheel it would work. Just my 2c.

Thanks mate. You're probably right. Don't plan on running anything over 3mm spacer. Its a consideration at the moment for future BBK install.

Ideally I'd like extended studs with a 3mm hubcentric spacer. But honestly I just hate the idea of spacers altogether.

eckoflyte 04-08-2013 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fizz (Post 849271)
but you'd need to make sure you get flat faced open-ended nuts, not the concave faced aftermarket ones as these won't fit on the factory wheels.

The subaru oem wheels use tapered conical seat. So most aftermarket lug nuts will fit.

EarlQHan 04-08-2013 05:55 AM

that is correct. oem uses tapered lugs, not acorn

King Tut 04-08-2013 03:33 PM

No need to change studs just to run a 2-3mm spacer.

Fizz 04-08-2013 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eckoflyte (Post 849274)
The subaru oem wheels use tapered conical seat. So most aftermarket lug nuts will fit.

ooh....didnt know that. i'd go get myself some yummy rays lug nuts then...hehe.

Kuzuri 05-10-2013 10:13 AM

any update on the rears?


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