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feldy 04-01-2013 10:33 PM

e85 question.
 
So have a question.. This is my first go at using e85 in a flashed car. Maybe 3 or 4 times or so I have accidentally started the car with my pump gas map instead of the correct one. One of the times it was driven out of the parking lot then I had realized what I had done and shut it off.

I have noticed when I kill the car and go to switch maps its pegged for a e85 map instead of the default 1. Not sure how it knows to switch.

Do I need to worry about anything other then the car just running like garbage when I forget, maybe possible long term damage? Since I'm never use the analog speedo I'm going to put a little sticky there for now.

Yruyur 04-01-2013 10:38 PM

Should not be any issues. I had to drive on pump gas for 80+ miles with the e85 tune...not recommended but laptop was dead.

I don't know what you mean by kill it then it remembers the map. Are you stalling it and just turning the key to start? It should not remember the map you are on if you completely shut off the car.

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feldy 04-01-2013 10:46 PM

Killing it by turning the key off. So what happens is if this is all with in 30 seconds or so... 1. kill the car after accidentally starting it on wrong map. 2.Go to turn the car back on but before you do go to change the map. Notice its on the map it was on, before you turned the car off prior to accidentally starting it on the wrong map.

Kinda weird old school bogus Nintendo controller cheat code style stuff. like the pedal dance trick.

Maybe its just a bug in the software that its doing that who knows.

Wondering more about the affects on the motor with the wrong map.

jamesm 04-01-2013 11:19 PM

Can't wait for actual flex fuel. This type of thing makes me want to avoid e85 entirely until there is a flex fuel solution available.

Vonsamhain 04-01-2013 11:32 PM

Their are flex fuel kits available from Visconti and FA20club

feldy 04-02-2013 12:11 AM

There is and the only reason I have not picked them up is due to the class I race in does not allow it.

reeves 04-02-2013 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by feldy (Post 834699)
Maybe 3 or 4 times or so I have accidentally started the car with my pump gas map instead of the correct one. One of the times it was driven out of the parking lot then I had realized what I had done and shut it off.

Wondering more about the affects on the motor with the wrong map.

I start my car with the wrong map all the time :D
You should be fine if you just drove it for a little bit.. don't WOT and you got nothing to worry about.. I drove several miles with a full tank of E85 (on my 93 tune), from the E85 station to the dyno when I got my E85 tune.

lexusb3 04-02-2013 01:18 AM

@reeves i completely agree....i done the same thing plenty of times

feldy 04-02-2013 01:22 AM

Cool thanks everyone.

Xdragonxb0i 04-02-2013 03:36 AM

the maps reset everytime?

I thought if you turn your car off on a certain map (e85) map, when you come back it would still be on it? or does automatically go to the default 1 map?

Yruyur 04-02-2013 03:58 AM

None of the tuners have been able to find out how to make the map number stay after the car is shut off. I know John was working on a switch that would accomplish similar results. At least the last I read.

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Ranatsu 04-02-2013 12:10 PM

Some cars will remember the last map you were on and some don't. To my knowledge they don't know why it happens on some cars and doesn't on others.

My car switches back to map 1 everytime I turn it off.

Foobar 04-02-2013 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ranatsu (Post 835703)
Some cars will remember the last map you were on and some don't. To my knowledge they don't know why it happens on some cars and doesn't on others.

My car switches back to map 1 everytime I turn it off.

Some cars meaning different makes/models or all FRS/BRZ? If all FRS/BRZ, I don't think that's true so long as we're talking about ECUTek.

ECUTek always defaults back to Map 1 upon startup, but if you quickly shutdown/startup, it apparently doesn't get a chance to clear it (not sure what the threshold is though).

Ranatsu 04-02-2013 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Foobar (Post 835746)
Some cars meaning different makes/models or all FRS/BRZ? If all FRS/BRZ, I don't think that's true so long as we're talking about ECUTek.

ECUTek always defaults back to Map 1 upon startup, but if you quickly shutdown/startup, it apparently doesn't get a chance to clear it (not sure what the threshold is though).

Some BRZ/FR-S owners have said the car remembers what map they were on the last time they drove the car. Mine does not, but its obvious that the things I have read could be completely incorrect.


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