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Scion FRS / BRZ Issue Compilation and Questionnaire
Hello Everyone,
I recently joined this thread after many months of following it, and a few years of following this car. I have spent many hours looking through all the threads and compiling the problems that I thought were important or "real" issues in my eyes. I hope to either buy the FR-S/BRZ or an S2000 but I am undecided so I would like your help in making my decision! At this point I do not think I could buy a car with ALL these issues :eyebulge: but I highly doubt that a late model vehicle has most or even many of these problems. The following is a chart that I compiled which shows the issue, the description/symptoms and a potential solution (if it exists) and a link to a thread from this site that applies. This is roughly in order of how much this problem concerns me. I would be buying one made this year (i.e. build date after Jan. 1st, 2013) so if you own one made this year or very close to it, I would really appreciate if you could let me know the following info about your awesome machine:
I will try to collect and organize the responses into a list of "occurrences" but I may not have time for this. I really appreciate any help you can give me :thanks:, and hopefully this will put myself (rabid FT86 fan) and other people like me into a higher level of comfort and maybe one of these sweet cars :burnrubber: Thanks, Andrew EDIT 4/6/2013: Entered in number of occurrences of each issue in red, collected from the 8 responses I have so far (all built pre-2013 as far as I can tell). Looking for post-2013 build dates! But all responses are much appreciated! |
1. FR-S
2. April 2012...car #02955 3. 21,000KMs 4. #6...annoying as hell. Shell 91 w/o ethanol, or Sunoco/Petro Canada 94 with 1-2 oz of good quality 2-stroke oil for a full tank will stop the chirp. There is some debate as to wether this should be done or not, and the dealer wouldn't like it, but 1 or 2 ounces per 50 litres is not going to be enough to foul spark plugs/cat. converters/O2 sensors. #9...pentosin fixed this for me. #10...Don't plug the holes. Some of the ones in the link look a little sloppy, but they're there for drainage. If you look under one of these cars, you'll find those holes all the way up the rocker panel (4 or 5 on each side). If you plug them, any water that gets in can't get out. #12...Clean glass rubbing on damp rubber will squeak. Normal as far as I'm concerned. 5. Nothing really to be fixed until/unless they come up with a cure for the crickets. 6. I believe there is now a TSB for the crickets in Canada, but those that have had it done in the USA have reported the crickets come back shortly after the "fix" was done. |
Scion FR-S
#07696 11kMiles #3. it is there, never thought much about it, might take it in for review when it gets warmer #5. no clutch here, but the gearbox whines under heavy loads. no answer yet #6. still no solutions. no matter what gas i put in. only one was tank appeared to be the right one, but it was 500 miles away. #11. fixed by dealer one side only #12. have it every time it rains. it should not be there. |
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For #6: I figured this is the only fix right now until they figure out what's wrong with the fuel pump. The TSB just replaces it with the same part #! #9: I hoped that Pentosin would work. :w00t: Anyone else try Pentosin? And what was the result? #10: Are you sure this is for drainage? How would water get in there if those holes were sealed? #12: So you think it's a design flaw? Some of the videos show this being pretty damn loud. |
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#3: If it's loud at all, this would drive me nuts. But I could just crank some tunes. #5: Have you tried changing tranny/diff. fluids? #12: I agree. Maybe the seal needs to be replaced? |
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So you have none of these issues?? Or some of them, but they don't bother you? |
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Some owners would have taken my car in 2 or 3 times to try and fix something (an intermittent pop, burning smell, extremely minor condensation around the edges of the taillights which is normal for all newer cars) but I don't see the need. It works as designed and nothing has given me any worry. I'll check for the oil leak when I do my first oil change in the next month, if a noise becomes annoying I'll figure it out. It all depends on how anal retentive you are. I bought a ToyoBaru, not a Lexus :party0030::happy0180::burnrubber: |
1. Scion FR-S
2. #13151 3. ~4500 miles 4. #6, #9 only when it is a pure cold start (plan on fixing with pentosin) 5. Nope 6. Word on the street, new part # for a new fuel pump will be out to resolve #6. Trying Pentosin for #9 |
Great, thanks.
And a new pump would be awesome. It should just be a matter of time! |
I get no chirps if I use Chevron - Mobil works too but engine is rougher with Mobil than Chevron.
Issues: Occasionally passenger auto up doesn't work 2 strips visible on the outside of door windows Rear deck rattle/pop once in a while Floor mats - just buy weather techs everything else I don't have/ meant to (ie. the transmission, it has 'crunchy'/'bad' feel at the beginning of cold starts because of how good it feels after being warmed up) |
Cool, thanks.
I am hoping I see more people like you without too many issues. Gona add another question above: would you still buy the car with the issues you have? I suspect most would say yes. :) |
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^ Agreed. I would buy one again in a heartbeat. The crickets do drive me nuts though.
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