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HillCountryGuru 03-08-2013 11:05 AM

Vortech Supercharger or AVO Turbo
 
I have been doing some research and I am really torn between these two kits. Both are in my price range. Both are reliable companies. Is there a reason to get one over the other? Help!

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Frostyman 03-08-2013 11:07 AM

Get both, MONSTER POWAH!

Jeff86 03-08-2013 11:14 AM

I'm still waiting to see what happens with the Innovate twin screw. If I had to choose only between these two it would probably be AVO for me based on torque results. A twin screw should do a better job with immediate torque than the Vortech, so I wait.

YourFearlessLeader 03-08-2013 11:17 AM

turbo for drag car
SC for road racing car

Jeff86 03-08-2013 11:22 AM

A turbo as small as AVO's is a viable option for road imo.

industrial 03-08-2013 11:39 AM

I honestly see no reason to pick vortech over the AVO kit on paper. Both are more or less track tested and well built, the AVO just has alot more power. It's not like the AVO is a monster turbo with miles of piping. It's a small compact kit running low boost on a high compression car. Really have to drive both to know the answer here. The Vortech seems to be overpriced for what it offers at this point though.

HillCountryGuru 03-08-2013 11:54 AM

I will be taking the car to a track nearby. The only reason I was thinking avo is BC of the low amount of boost, I will be waiting 6months or so to buy anything so we will see what innovate throws out.

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HATED1 03-08-2013 12:44 PM

you might want to consider which one has better MPG, im in the same boat.

jkonquer 03-13-2013 11:45 PM

according to what we have read so far in the threads, it seems like vortech s/c is pretty much maxed out from the factory. There are few power gain from adding smaller pulley but the actual compressor is at its limit. Where as AVO, you have more option to upgrade in future as with most turbo kits.
It really comes down to what you plan on doing with your car. Both are reliable but i would think vortech will be better since it doesn't use oil or water cooling which result in oil consumption in turbo application. As far as cooling, turbos are known to heat up dramatically in 86.

sw20kosh 03-14-2013 02:16 AM

I'd wait for Innovate's sc and AVO's stage 2 finalized results. AVO's fast spool + 270 WHP is hard to beat.

I am also addicted to risp NA response and supercharger whine so Innovate's looks yum to me too.

AVOturboworld 03-14-2013 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jkonquer (Post 792201)
It really comes down to what you plan on doing with your car. Both are reliable but i would think vortech will be better since it doesn't use oil or water cooling which result in oil consumption in turbo application. As far as cooling, turbos are known to heat up dramatically in 86.

I've not seen any oil consumption issues over the last 6000 miles of turbo testing. I don't except there to be any, either. EJ25 turbo motors have oil consumption issues practically out the door (due to blow-by). This is a different motor, and doesn't have those same issues.

All turbochargers heat up dramatically in all setups - they make power off the exhaust! Since we place ours down in the area set up for the exhaust manifold already, it doesn't affect anything near it. And given how we do our turbocharger oiling system, we haven't seen any large oil/coolant differences from stock.

matchamochi 03-14-2013 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by industrial (Post 780299)
I honestly see no reason to pick vortech over the AVO kit on paper. Both are more or less track tested and well built, the AVO just has alot more power. It's not like the AVO is a monster turbo with miles of piping. It's a small compact kit running low boost on a high compression car. Really have to drive both to know the answer here. The Vortech seems to be overpriced for what it offers at this point though.

Vortech gets carb emission. Sounds stupid - but in California it actually matters unfortunately if your car is your dd :/

sw20kosh 03-14-2013 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AVOturboworld (Post 792566)
I've not seen any oil consumption issues over the last 6000 miles of turbo testing. I don't except there to be any, either. EJ25 turbo motors have oil consumption issues practically out the door (due to blow-by). This is a different motor, and doesn't have those same issues.

All turbochargers heat up dramatically in all setups - they make power off the exhaust! Since we place ours down in the area set up for the exhaust manifold already, it doesn't affect anything near it. And given how we do our turbocharger oiling system, we haven't seen any large oil/coolant differences from stock.

AVO turbo kit carb approval would seriously seal the deal for a lot of people. Especially considering it looks like a OE part. It, however will not pass CARB as it stands.

Delsy 03-14-2013 07:29 AM

To install AVO do you need some modification on your car? I use a GT 86 aero with all stock. Also I use 100oct gas. Thanks a lot!


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