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Ingen 02-23-2013 05:08 PM

Dealer over tightened wheel studs
 
I love my dealership 99% of the time. They do a good job, are very friendly and have taken great care of me. However, they rotated my tires at my 7500 mile service and now.. I can not loosen the wheels. I don't have an impact, but I couldn't do it with a 4 way wrench.

Should I ask them to loosen and correctly torque? Do I need to be worried about stud damage?

I intend to autocross the car and I think I will lose my mind if I lose a wheel because I didn't nip this in the butt.

What do you guys think?

Edit: more concerned about possible damage, any opinions on that? I was thinking dealer because they could replace the studs while they're at it.

wrxgoose 02-23-2013 05:11 PM

you shouldn't have to go all the way to your dealership, any tire place could loosen then re-tighten them correctly. not supposed to tighten them down with an impact anyways (according to my teacher in auto-tech)

Beyer Subaru 02-23-2013 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ingen (Post 753050)
I love my dealership 99% of the time. They do a good job, are very friendly and have taken great care of me. However, they rotated my tires at my 7500 mile service and now.. I can not loosen the wheels. I don't have an impact, but I couldn't do it with a 4 way wrench.

Should I ask them to loosen and correctly torque? Do I need to be worried about stud damage?

I intend to autocross the car and I think I will lose my mind if I lose a wheel because I didn't nip this in the butt.

What do you guys think?


Did you try to stand on the factory lug wrench? I've never had a lug nut I couldn't remove.

The next time that your at the dealer just ask them to only use a torque wrench to factory specs. I have to do this with my guys because I've got aftermarket lugs that you can't use air tools with.

supramkivtt2jz 02-23-2013 05:25 PM

Breaker bar.

Miniata 02-23-2013 05:25 PM

This is one reason I always mount and rotate my wheels myself. You can get an inexpensive floor jack, torque wrench, breaker bar, and sockets at Harbor Freight for under $100, and have the satisfaction of doing it yourself, and knowing it was done right.

#87 02-23-2013 05:25 PM

Stand on the wrench. That's what I had to do the first time I did a DIY. Then just do it yourself from now on.

campy 02-23-2013 07:22 PM

Do you have a long metal/PVC pipe you could stick on the end of your wrench? That would give you more leverage and it would be much easier to get it loose.

jshadeck 02-23-2013 07:26 PM

Most people can "squat" or lift more than their own weight, are u pulling up on the wrench or pushing down? Ie if u weigh 150lbs thats the most u can possibly push down with before u lift urself off the ground, give or take fulcrum points and leverages. but u can most likely lift much more than 150lbs of force on the wrench

ahausheer 02-23-2013 08:43 PM

Apply wrench, use car jack under end of wrench, protect the eyes, cross the fingers, and viola.

Ingen 02-23-2013 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jshadeck (Post 753222)
Most people can "squat" or lift more than their own weight, are u pulling up on the wrench or pushing down? Ie if u weigh 150lbs thats the most u can possibly push down with before u lift urself off the ground, give or take fulcrum points and leverages. but u can most likely lift much more than 150lbs of force on the wrench

4 way lug wrench, I weigh 220 and pulled up on one side and pushed down on the other. I bent my wrench slightly :(

jshadeck 02-23-2013 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ingen (Post 753318)
4 way lug wrench, I weigh 220 and pulled up on one side and pushed down on the other. I bent my wrench slightly :(

Get a stronger wrench lol. Tried the one in the trunk?

Porsche 02-23-2013 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ingen (Post 753318)
pulled up on one side and pushed down on the other. I bent my wrench slightly :(

Probably made in China.

When bolts are "stuck" like yours, especially steel bolts mated to aluminum, they often need a very sharp RAP; this breaks the fastener free. Where slow, progressively increasing force will lead to bending things, and rounding-off the bolt heads, a sharp RAP (with a hammer, for instance) will free it. There's too much "stiction" at work. Break that "stiction" bond.

Xenocide117 02-23-2013 09:42 PM

With a lever long enough you can move the world.

DuMa 02-23-2013 10:42 PM

lesson 1. never go to the dealer for maintenance you can do at home or at a friend's house


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