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-   -   would new brake pads significantly boost braking? (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28880)

mrlewistan 02-13-2013 02:45 AM

would new brake pads significantly boost braking?
 
ive been driving a while with the frs and imo i feel like the brakes need more power behind them. when exiting an off ramp and trying to drop from 75mph, the brakes feel mushy as heck. same when im driving in the mountains and slowing for a tight turn.

my budget is kinda spent so i have to start saving up for the next thing and was wondering how much difference a nicer set of pads would have. i know a bigger brake kit would work much better but its much too expensive for me.

CSG Mike 02-13-2013 03:09 AM

They sure will. Try an entry level race pad, but be careful when you're in freezing temps. They'll take a stop to warm up. Just one.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ight=carbotech

JoeBoxer 02-13-2013 03:18 AM

Agree with Mike you might want to change fluid also to some Motul or AP Racing. There are lots of good pads available, Ferodo DS2500, Project Mu, and even the StopTech pads are supposed to be pretty good.

JRitt 02-13-2013 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mrlewistan (Post 731650)
ive been driving a while with the frs and imo i feel like the brakes need more power behind them. when exiting an off ramp and trying to drop from 75mph, the brakes feel mushy as heck. same when im driving in the mountains and slowing for a tight turn.

my budget is kinda spent so i have to start saving up for the next thing and was wondering how much difference a nicer set of pads would have. i know a bigger brake kit would work much better but its much too expensive for me.

I wrote this FT86 brake upgrade guide a while back. Check it out.

Yes, pads will be your most significant upgrade in terms of feel. I would recommend Ferodo DS2500 front and rear. They are great for daily driving, weekend canyon bombing, autoX, and even track duty in some situations. They are an excellent value for their performance.

OrbitalEllipses 02-13-2013 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JRitt (Post 731945)
I wrote this FT86 brake upgrade guide a while back. Check it out.

Yes, pads will be your most significant upgrade in terms of feel. I would recommend Ferodo DS2500 front and rear. They are great for daily driving, weekend canyon bombing, autoX, and even track duty in some situations. They are an excellent value for their performance.

Good pads. Had them on my WRX.

Racecomp Engineering 02-13-2013 11:35 AM

Ferodo 2500s are a great street pad that can take some real abuse.

- Andrew

mad_sb 02-13-2013 11:43 AM

Please flush out the oem fluid and replace with a high boiling point fluid like RBF600 or 660 if you step up to an agressive pad.... you can easily boil the fluid before DS2500's come close to pad fade... been there.. done that..... IMO Fluid should be the FIRST thing you upgrade with the brakes, then pads and lines.

jadewbj 02-13-2013 12:54 PM

If you could swing it try to do fluid and rotors at the same time.

http://ft86speedfactory.com/stoptech...grade-216.html

$530.50 for:
Kit Includes:
2 - Front Slotted Rotors
2 - Rear Slotted Rotors
1 - Front Brake Pad Set
1 - Rear Brake Pad Set
1 - Stainless Line Kit Front
1 - Stainless Line Kit Rear

OrbitalEllipses 02-13-2013 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jadewbj (Post 732323)
If you could swing it try to do fluid and rotors at the same time.

http://ft86speedfactory.com/stoptech...grade-216.html

$530.50 for:
Kit Includes:
2 - Front Slotted Rotors
2 - Rear Slotted Rotors
1 - Front Brake Pad Set
1 - Rear Brake Pad Set
1 - Stainless Line Kit Front
1 - Stainless Line Kit Rear

Better use of that money here: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28493

He doesn't need rotors; yet. This kit includes pads, lines, and good fluid...all the necessities without spending money on unneeded rotors.

CSG Mike 02-13-2013 01:13 PM

I'd just start with good fluid and pads. Even the lines aren't really necessary yet.

russv 02-13-2013 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering (Post 732096)
Ferodo 2500s are a great street pad that can take some real abuse.

- Andrew

Has anyone put these on yet? I am highly interested as I like strong feeling brakes.

Edit: After doing some internet research it seems these brakes have a tendency to squeal a lot.

OrbitalEllipses 02-13-2013 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by russv (Post 732480)
Has anyone put these on yet? I am highly interested as I like strong feeling brakes.

Edit: After doing some internet research it seems these brakes have a tendency to squeal a lot.

And dust. They are a high friction street pad that can take some abuse; it's expected.

You don't want dust or noise? Go with a ceramic "comfort" pad. Lower coefficient of friction, less performance.

CSG Mike 02-13-2013 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 732680)
And dust. They are a high friction street pad that can take some abuse; it's expected.

You don't want dust or noise? Go with a ceramic "comfort" pad. Lower coefficient of friction, less performance.

We sell ceramic "race" pads. Lower coefficient of friction in comparison to metallic race pads, and wheel-friendly dust, equivalent performance to other race pads. :thumbsup:

The Carbotech AX6 is designed for AutoX, where you want the increased bite and performance, but don't necessarily need something that's capable of a spring race.

OrbitalEllipses 02-13-2013 03:40 PM

IIRC, they carry the price tag for their comfort too :-P

Good pads as well. I went through numerous street compounds on my WRX. Ferodo DS2500, Porterfield R4S, Stoptech Street, Carbotech AX6 and 8.


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