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tranzformer 12-13-2011 07:45 PM

Brake cooling duct kit
 
Looking at brake cooling kits for other cars, seems like ~$200-300 will do the job for the kit; ducts to fit where fog lights go, duct hose, brake backing plates (direct air to center of rotor) and the misc hardware.

Is this something that would be worthwhile for someone who occasionally tracks/auto-x the car + mostly DD, or would this be better suited for someone who races their car more often than that? I can't see myself racing more than a few times a year. But it seems like a fairly "cheap" & easy upgrade to get some brake performance in return.

ucla bruin 12-13-2011 09:20 PM

If you're racing a few times an year, I would probably say you won't need it. Not a lot of people will need brake ducts, unless you're hardcore and really take advantage of the full braking power (which most of occasional track goers don't).

I'd put the $200-$300 in tires or suspension, if your goal is to build it for track :)

ucla bruin 12-13-2011 09:21 PM

Oh and pads. Probably tires and pads.

tranzformer 12-13-2011 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ucla bruin (Post 97643)
If you're racing a few times an year, I would probably say you won't need it. Not a lot of people will need brake ducts, unless you're hardcore and really take advantage of the full braking power (which most of occasional track goers don't).

I'd put the $200-$300 in tires or suspension, if your goal is to build it for track :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ucla bruin (Post 97644)
Oh and pads. Probably tires and pads.

Thanks. Is it possible to find a set of pads that will do a good job at DD and the occasional track use without being overly loud and dusty?

To be honest the idea of the cooling duct sounds cool, even if not really needed for the occasionally raced car. :thumbsup:

LSxJunkie 12-13-2011 10:18 PM

You're not going to need cooling ducts unless you're HPDE-ing the car on a brake heavy track, and even then that will come after pads and fluid (and possibly rotors. Nobody knows how good the cooling is on the stock rotors yet.)

JDLM 12-13-2011 10:28 PM

Invest in rotors/brake fluid/lines (and hopefully they are Impreza parts) so it will be cake

Racecomp Engineering 12-13-2011 11:31 PM

The car should do well with just good pads and fluid. The thing about brake ducts though is they always help and they will make your pads and rotors last a lot longer.....


- drew

tranzformer 12-13-2011 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering (Post 97707)
The car should do well with just good pads and fluid. The thing about brake ducts though is they always help and they will make your pads and rotors last a lot longer.....


- drew

I assume you mean for a car that is frequently tracked or do you also mean for a car that is occasionally tracked and a DD?

Racecomp Engineering 12-14-2011 01:04 AM

Frequently tracked with serious tires (r-comps) I'd say brake ducts really should be on everyone's list.

Occasionally tracked I'd say optional, but nice to have.

- drew

ucla bruin 12-14-2011 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 97660)
Thanks. Is it possible to find a set of pads that will do a good job at DD and the occasional track use without being overly loud and dusty?

To be honest the idea of the cooling duct sounds cool, even if not really needed for the occasionally raced car. :thumbsup:

Yes, very possible but then again you're asking for the balance between DD pads and track pads, which always have a give and take relationship.

Good track pads are not DD friendly (without proper bed-in). DD pads won't withstand the heat from tracking.

For entry tracking and DD with low dust and zero noise, you can check out Hawk's HPS. I'm sure it'll have higher heat tolerance than stock pads. You can always have another set of pads just for track and switch them out before you head out. There are tons of more aggressive ones out there, people will share their experiences. If it were me, I'd get carbotechs XP8.

Save your money for pads and tires and fluids. You'll notice huge difference with pads and tires. Fluids are necessary because it's part of your consumables, maintenance cost.

See you at the track this weekend! :burnrubber:

blur 12-14-2011 06:48 AM

I prefer CL brake pads.

http://www.essexparts.com/shop/brake...-overview.html

Racecomp Engineering 12-14-2011 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ucla bruin (Post 97854)
For entry tracking and DD with low dust and zero noise, you can check out Hawk's HPS. I'm sure it'll have higher heat tolerance than stock pads.

I hate hate hate Hawk HPS. I faded them backing out of the driveway and they have awful bite.

I'm not a Hawk hater. I do like their real track pads. But HPS is not track worthy....a downgrade from stock IMO.

Stoptech has a good sporty street pad that can take a little abuse.

- Andrew

LSxJunkie 12-14-2011 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering (Post 98035)
I hate hate hate Hawk HPS. I faded them backing out of the driveway and they have awful bite.

I'm not a Hawk hater. I do like their real track pads. But HPS is not track worthy....a downgrade from stock IMO.

Stoptech has a good sporty street pad that can take a little abuse.

- Andrew

This. The HPSs I ran had crap bite. They held up to heat better than stock GTO pads, but worse than stock G35 Brembo pads. I should have gone with Porterfields.

Dave-ROR 12-14-2011 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering (Post 98035)
I hate hate hate Hawk HPS. I faded them backing out of the driveway and they have awful bite.

I'm not a Hawk hater. I do like their real track pads. But HPS is not track worthy....a downgrade from stock IMO.

Stoptech has a good sporty street pad that can take a little abuse.

- Andrew

:thumbup:

Hawk DTCs I'm a fan of, still a fan of blues even though they have plenty of drawbacks (I guess it's more of nostalgia for me with blues :P ).. Carbotech is my current choice..


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