Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys (Post 6221)

Can a person even do a comparison to the Supras of the 80's to the mustang of the 80's?

Isn't that like comparing Sirloin steak to dog food?

FYI, this guy is on effing crack. "The Supra is a big, bland car..."

You know how I remember my Supra? Powerful, confusingly nimble in the corners for its size (again, the Supra's cornering is alllways overlooked by people), and luxary out the ass. It had everything. There is still no car that has been able to measure up to the comfortness of its factory bucket seats. Those things would easily put someone to sleep. My 1989 MarkIII N/A could still beat '98+ V6 stangs down any straight AND around any corner

The Supra died in America because Toyota couldn't keep the costs of the damn car down. How could they? The car was boasting the best of everything in a car in one package. You had ultimate power, superb reliability, and every freekin' luxary that came on a Lexus. Mate that with the fact that the luxary/high power sport car market was shrinking at that time (RX-7 and 300zx had already bitten the bucket by then) and its a no brainer why it was axed. It certainly wasn't because it was a "big, bland car". It was still manufactured in Japan until 2000, when eventual Japanese emission laws shut it down for good (and hence, no more L6's....).

This especially:

You can't compare the two cars, I don't care who you are. The quality difference between a Supra and a Mustang was so distanced, its not possible to do so.
The car wasn't nicknamed the "Rich man's Mustang." It was nicknamed "The Poor man's Porsche", and for damn good reason.

This is the kind of garbage you get spewed in your face when someone tries to make an educated conclusion on a car using one stat: HP.

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Originally Posted by S2KtoFT86 (Post 6224)

He did make an incorrect quote in reference to his F & F quotes. It's not "This will dominate all", it's "This will decimate all. With about 15 grand, we'll overnight parts from Japan if we have to." Just thought I'd clear that confusion up. :bellyroll::bellyroll:

Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys (Post 6228)

F&F is a terrible example anyways. When that little squirrley kid popped the hood on the supra when it was on the tow truck he said "2JZ, no shit!"

Yeah, no shit dumbfuck...EVERY 4th gen came with a '2JZ'...its the GE and the GTE that made the difference. And he was getting all uber excited about it being a 2JZ...a 2JZ-GE no less!

<.< I was 16 when the movie came out, and yeah, my girl in the theatre with me didn't care that I was tearing the movie apart from a technical standpoint. She was more interested in the taste of my neck. I was more interested in ripping the movie a new one.

Originally Posted by Axel (Post 6245)

nah... just happened on the above three articles because they were new and interesting. You probably have the Neidermyer guy misplaced with somebody else who retired because he seems to be writing up a storm...

And it wasn't his articles that you and our resident Toyota Purist took objection to anyway... it was the fourth article I posted that was written by Jack Baruth.. who is a different guy I presume. :) And his writing style and the way he described the experience of driving the Supra was interesting & mostly complementary.

Baruth's comments on the car were his opinion, not ours, and not some technical standpoint that can be countered. People can only get so much pleasure from being "technically correct"... I'd wager much more can be had from the too-few-and-far-between "visceral experiences" we are lucky enough to encounter in life... OldSkoolToys might have enjoyed himself more way back when if he had concentrated more on his girls nibbling and the farcical nature of the movie he was watching.
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